Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Ashok was a Buddhist and Buddhists do not believe in Gods. At least Buddha never said so.
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The Law of God
- Thread starter Nakosis
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Since we are in the 'last days' of badness on Earth people are lacking in natural affection, being fierce, and advancing from bad to worse - see 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13.
Media violence often featured as entertainment grows more graphic.
The NEWS " if it bleeds, it leads."
Video games obsessed with violence, bloodshed.
Music featuring violent lyrics is now mainstream.
Movies once silent are now unspeakable.
Guns make violent people more violent.
False clergy ' scoff ' at Bible prophets/prophecies.
So, what needs to go is: trouble-causing religion.
Surprisingly then the political will turn on the corrupted religious world.
Then, we will see fulfillment of Bible prophecy when Jesus will take action - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
syo
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Everything that is crystal clear and not nebulous.
Bird123
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You do not understand.
Free will is without law. Though you might think you have truth with beliefs, you will Discover that beliefs are not always truth. You will Discover even long held beliefs will lead you in the wrong direction.
Has God directly given you laws to intimidate your choices? No! Has God ever directly told you which choices you should make? No! The Truth stares you in the face.
You might Believe God has told or given you laws based upon your belief in your holy book, However, I speak of Truth not beliefs.
Holy books are written by mankind. That is who they reflect. Mankind values so many petty things. Control is one of them.
Mankind will attempt control in many areas. Religion is one of them. Just the fact that mankind values all those petty things in their religions proves it does not come from God.
With God, it has never been about Sin. It has never been about Good vrs Evil. It has never been about Ruling and Controlling your Choices and Actions. It has never been about Judging, Condemning, and Punishing. It has never been about trying to alter your choices through Fear, Threats or Pain. With God, it is about TRUTH.
God has never needed holy books because the Real Truth is staring us all in the face!!
God is very very Smart. You need not worry about falling into a dark place unable to find your way out. There are many Great souls who volunteer to go through Great adversity in order that someone else sees.
God abandons no one regardless of any of their beliefs. There will be souls come by and shine Light into your eyes. It might hurt, however it will lead to the Direction of the Truth and the Higher Level where, in time, only the best choices will be the viable choices one would choose to make. It's called Intelligence.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Maybe the question should be: Who and What do you want to control???
I believe those quotes are referring to Baha’u’llah. If you read His admonishments and Tablets to the Kings and religious leaders of the world you will see why.
Bahá'í Reference Library - Proclamation of Bahá’u’lláh
DKH
Member
In Matthew 22:36-40, a Pharisee lawyer asked Jesus "which is the great commandment in the law?" Jesus responded, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and prophets (KJV). Thus, there seems to be a clear distinction between the great and first commandment and the second one (in order of importance). It also seems clear that Jesus' response was before Pentecost. Also, please inform me of the bible translation you used that capitalized the word "Law" in Gal. 6:2 (Thanks).
wellwisher
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Adam and Eve, before the fall from paradise, lived by instinct. There was no complaint by God. Instinct was a type of law that was written in their hearts through their DNA. You do not need anyone to teach you instinct. It comes from within and is part of the natural operating system of the human brain. Natural instinct is the law of God, since it is inherent within creation. It is what allows all of the conscious critters of nature to integrate, so all its parts mesh into thriving ecosystems.
The more traditional idea of law, is connected to something that comes to us from the outside, through learning and education. Law and knowledge of good and evil came to Adam and Eve, from the outside and was connected to the sales pitch of Satan. This type of law or law of man is more artificial and arbitrary. It is not always natural. That type of law is also controlled by politicians and lawyers, neither of which are considered the most honorable professions That type of law is self serving and not natural.
A good example of the contrast between these two types of law can be seen with a new mother and her baby. Some mothers have an instinctive bond with their child, and seem to know what to do, through love and patience. The law of God and the law of nature is written in her heart; coded on her DNA.
On the other hand, we have the cultural mother, who is trained not trust her instincts, but rather she would prefer read books and gain knowledge from outside herself, to know the best latest fads in baby care. This is based on the law of man. The natural woman will inherently understand that breast feeding is natural and good for the baby. But the man made woman, who does not trust or hear her inner voice of instincts, will only do that if someone outside her; her doctor, tells her this is what you need to do. Both can reach the same natural result, but only one comes from natural law. Faith is trust in your inner voice of instincts, which for humans, go further one may think.
If you look at political parties, these are all based on learned behavior, which often creates a wedge between people of different parties; we are good and they are bad. Natural instinct sees people as people, regardless of their external conditioning and training. Paul said I became all things to all men. Below that mask is the real person. External law is often used like a mask, to appear righteous or in style. However, if the law was removed, different colors often show. The law of natural instinct stays the same, since it is not a mask.
Jesus preached love since love is the most integrating emotion. The emotion of fear which has a connection to external law; punishment. Fear divides and differentiates; fight or flight. When the brain writes to memory it add emotional tags. Fear and love cause our memory to orientate differently within the cerebral matter.
Natural instinct is not about division, but about integrating one within oneself, with others, with nature and with God. This type of data processing is far more complex, which is why it was considered an advancement by Jesus. Love weaves even opposite things in one. One was to let the old man of fear and law die and become reborn into love. This describes uninstalling the old Operating system connected to external law and fear, and installing the new operating system based on data integration via love.
In math, differentiation allows us to find the slope; angle, of a curve at a given point. Integration allows us to find the area under the curve from A to B. Through rebirth into instinct and the inner voice, we are no longing looking at angles and points on the surface of things, but we are looking below that surface of points, to see how they all add up and mesh.
As a science example, a magnet has a North Pole and South Pole. Ironically, neither pole exists by itself as a monopole, yet science still expresses the poles as though they are real independent things. This visual is not exactly real, since physics has never isolated a monopole. But this acceptance comes to us from law training; good and evil, to create manmade 2-D illusions, that are hard to break due to fear and cerebral memory organization in 2-D. What is real is the unity and integration called the magnet, but not the arbitrary break down into 2-D, which remind us of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and fear; original sin.
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Yes, Jesus answered about the great commandment in the law, and in the Douay Law is with the upper-case "L".
I was Not thinking about the Douay but more of what I was taught in high school English class that it is proper to say the " Law of the Land ", etc. using a capital letter "L" ( So, I could very well be mistaken to use a capital "L" )
( question? Is it acceptable to say the Garden of Eden or just to say the garden of Eden __________ )
You already know Jesus response was before Pentecost because Pentecost was ' after ' Jesus was resurrected.
It was 'after' the time of Matthew chapter 22 that Jesus gave his 'new commandment' found at John 13:34-35.
Found in John 13:1-17:26 is Jesus parting advice to his disciples at his last Passover time.
Not by instinct according to Genesis 2:17; Genesis 2:19-20.
Adam used his God-given language grammar skills to observe and then name each animal.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Well there are different laws depending on the individual. For Jews, the Law is the 613 commandments of the Torah as interpreted by Oral Torah. For non-Jews, you have the seven laws of Noah.
I don't think the laws are written on the hearts of men, as is proven by the fact that we must teach our children right from wrong.
DKH
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Thanks for responding to my question…It is my position that using capital letters is a personal choice as long as the meaning of the word being capitalized isn't changed or the word is emphasized beyond its intended purpose. Thus, capitalizing the term: Garden of Eden (in my opinion) would be acceptable, because the general understanding of the term isn't changed by capitalizing the word garden. However, my position changes when it comes to the term: law. In John 12:49-50 (KJV) it is stated (by Jesus) that his Father gave him a command what (he) should say and what (he) should speak (verse 49). Jesus also states that his (the Father's command) is life everlasting: whatsoever I (Jesus) speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, I speak (verse 50). So, (in my opinion) John 13:34-35 is implying (to me) that the Heavenly Father gave the (new) command to Jesus to give to his disciples. Yet, this command has been given many times, in different forms though-out the bible (O.T. and N.T.).
Therefore, (in my opinion) the word (Law) should be capitalized when referring to the Father's instructions and lower case when repeated by others.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I do not think Adam named all animals as the species are in excess of 8 million. He perhaps gave the family names like birds, lions, tigers, spiders, dear, fish, etc.
Sublime thought. Would you kindly list the trouble causing religions or just saying all non christian religions will be enough.
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Thank you for your thought-given reply.
Before John 12:49-50 I find at John 12:34 referring to the old 'Mosaic Law', so it would seem at that verse Law with a capital "L" would be proper.
Since the Mosaic Law is also 'the Law' referred at John 15:25 a capital "L" would also be proper there.
On the other hand, mentioning the kingly law, the royal law found at James 2:8 would Not need a capital "L".
My high school English teacher died a few years ago, otherwise I would have liked her input on this subject.
I think she would have enjoyed talking with you.
Remember: Adam was only in the Garden of Eden. Naming the animals in Eden.
I'll start with trouble-causing 'Christendom' ( so-called Christian but mostly in name only - Matthew 7:21-23 )
Christendom started after the first century ended and became the ' weed/tares ' of Matthew chapter 13.
This is why the political will start its turning on religion by going against 'Christendom'.
Spiritual house cleaning will start with the 'house of God'.
As a 'new broom sweeps clean' Jesus will clean out what has been corrupted.
As to who will prove to be a figurative 'sheep' at Jesus' coming Glory Time remains to be seen - Matthew 25:21-34.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
After you are done with so called Christians, then what happen to five billion others.
I am more concerned about them since I am one of them. Would you use your new broom against us.
I think we all have good reason to be concerned.
We don't know who will make up those figurative humble 'sheep' as found at Matthew 25:31-34 at Jesus' Glory Time.
The Bible does teach wicked people will be destroyed (Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22) but as to who will be classed as a haughty ' goat ' remains to be seen.
As world developments continue to fulfill what Jesus said people will take sides ( sheep or goat side )
In the meantime, we can all sincerely pray for answers and consider the teachings of Christ Jesus as found in the Bible.
Awhile back, I visited off and on with a Hindu family and they displayed more Christ-like hospitality then their neighbors of Christendom background. There always was a warm welcome.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
That is what we are taught, athithi devo bhava, treat the guest like a God. Of course, the guest should not overstay his welcome, otherwise he becomes a pest.
DKH
Member
I'm pretty sure your high school teacher would have been able to educate and more than likely embarrass me concerning "secular" grammar…Yet, I'm not that interested in this type of understanding. For instance, the term Mosaic Law is not a biblical term. Thus, it is my opinion that certain scholars/educators/religious organizations are attempting to dictate the rules of biblical reasoning. This is quite evident in John 15:25, where reference bibles direct readers to Psalms 69:4 as support for John 15:25. And, Psalm 69:4 direct readers to John 15:25 for support as well. However, when, we review Psalms 69:5 it seem to claim that the one who is "hated without a cause" is a sinner (KJV). This surely can't be referencing the Messiah. What about Psalms 35? Well, this as well isn't referencing the Messiah, it's referencing King David. Yet, the most obvious point is that Psalms isn't part of the Law (even though some try to suggest otherwise)! Hence, it seems to me that John 15:25 is spurious and isn't part of the equation..
I recall a yard sign that directed people to two doors; one front door and one side door.
The sign read for the front door: Guests, and for the side door it said for: Pests.
However, the pest sign was the friendly sign.
When the Hindu family moved away I'm sure it was Not because of overstaying a welcome visit because visits were only for a few minutes to share a positive thought for the day.