What God expects of us-alternate perspective

[Mukhtar Farid]

Peace be upon you members
First of all I am not perfect and am a sinner but I am here to let you know that through my pondering God revealed to me what matters.No I did not hear his voice or see a dream rather I pondered logically and am responding to his call
This world is filled with problems because the lack of love towards humans,animals,insects,mother earth.The heart of it is loving everything unconditionally which seems to be lacking nowadays.So God revealed through my ponderings that
we need to sanctify ourselves by
1.Loving all of creation unconditionally
2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back
3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice
4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.
5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others
6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

I am starting my journey today towards this sanctification, are you with me or not?In any case if you are not thats fine-the creator is cool with that .

 

[Shadow Wolf]

1.Loving all of creation unconditionally

Is it not better to save our love for those we cherish and the things we enjoy while respecting the rest?

2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back

Why should we forgive someone who has no remorse and makes no efforts to make amends?

3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice

Is this "not justice" just for you or would you help seek justice over a wrong?

4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.

Why?

5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others

Why? And why repent to a creator? Why not make amends among those we wrong?

6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

Why?

 

[syo]

.Loving all of creation unconditionally

Love again??? Why is it all people talk about love???

 

[Aštra’el]

Peace be upon you members
First of all I am not perfect and am a sinner but I am here to let you know that through my pondering God revealed to me what matters.No I did not hear his voice or see a dream rather I pondered logically and am responding to his call
This world is filled with problems because the lack of love towards humans,animals,insects,mother earth.The heart of it is loving everything unconditionally which seems to be lacking nowadays.So God revealed through my ponderings that
we need to sanctify ourselves by
1.Loving all of creation unconditionally
2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back
3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice
4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.
5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others
6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

I am starting my journey today towards this sanctification, are you with me or not?In any case if you are not thats fine-the creator is cool with that .

If only I could… but my purpose and passion takes me down a different path.

You have connected to God, and it has inspired goodness in your heart. I respect that, and if this journey is one your heart honestly and genuinely cries out for, then I say go for it.

 

[PureX]

Peace be upon you members
First of all I am not perfect and am a sinner but I am here to let you know that through my pondering God revealed to me what matters.No I did not hear his voice or see a dream rather I pondered logically and am responding to his call
This world is filled with problems because the lack of love towards humans,animals,insects,mother earth.The heart of it is loving everything unconditionally which seems to be lacking nowadays.So God revealed through my ponderings that
we need to sanctify ourselves by
1.Loving all of creation unconditionally
2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back
3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice
4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.
5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others
6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

I am starting my journey today towards this sanctification, are you with me or not?In any case if you are not thats fine-the creator is cool with that .

Thank you for choosing the light.

 

[Altfish]

Is it not better to save our love for those we cherish and the things we enjoy while respecting the rest?

Why should we forgive someone who has no remorse and makes no efforts to make amends?

Is this "not justice" just for you or would you help seek justice over a wrong?

Why?

Why? And why repent to a creator? Why not make amends among those we wrong?

Why?

Well I was going to post something here, but after this post I'd be wasting my time.
Says it all

 

[stvdv]

Peace be upon you members
First of all I am not perfect and am a sinner but I am here to let you know that through my pondering God revealed to me what matters.No I did not hear his voice or see a dream rather I pondered logically and am responding to his call
This world is filled with problems because the lack of love towards humans,animals,insects,mother earth.The heart of it is loving everything unconditionally which seems to be lacking nowadays.So God revealed through my ponderings that
we need to sanctify ourselves by
1.Loving all of creation unconditionally
2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back
3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice
4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.
5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others
6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

I am starting my journey today towards this sanctification, are you with me or not?In any case if you are not thats fine-the creator is cool with that .

Perfect.

I came to this conclusion too
So, I am totally with you

Vegetarian is a must

And indeed, God won't punish you
Karma takes care of this stuff
(e.g.: step on a banana peel, and you fall)

 

[Eli G]

Human beings do not have to speculate about what God expects of us, His creation.

When he made a pact with the Israelites, he gave them very precise laws, which although today are not applicable to Christians, they tell us what pleases God and what he will never accept that humans practice.

Jesus was asked about the most important commandment of the Law:

Matt. 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

Anything that shows disrespect for Jehovah God or carelessness in dealings with others is unacceptable from the standpoint of our Creator. Obviously, this is a simple and easy to understand generalization.

In reality, achieving reconciliation with our Creator as part of his universal family required the payment of a very high price: the human life of Jesus, and only by recognizing and appealing to that legal resource can we consider the possibility of reconciliation.

 

[ChristineM]

.Loving all of creation unconditionally

Can't do that there are some people that don't deserve love

2.Forgiving every human or creation vices without expecting anything back

I guess you have never been in proximity of a terrorist bomb and never been raped

3.Focus on love,compassion and mercy not justice

Love is earned, it isn't given away freely. Compassion for pedophiles, terrorists etc? No thanks. The only mercy some people deserve is the mercy of facing justice

4.Abstaining from all human vices whether it is pornography watching,eating unhealthy food,unethical adultery with self or others etc etc.

Human vices tend to be subjective. You vices are not mine and mine are not yours

5.Repenting endlessly to the creator of all of creation for self and others

Which creator? Count the different creator gods that have been worshiped throughout recorded history and you won't up with close to 4000 gods. I still haven't worked out how that could work

6.Being grateful to the creator for self and others

See 5

 

[Wildswanderer]

Love again??? Why is it all people talk about love???

Because of the Beatles song of course!

 

[Eli G]

When people don't even know who the Creator really is or what kind of personality and character he has as a real being, all speculation is pointless.

There are pagan gods who protect drunks, prostitutes, thieves, warriors, killers, etc. So the creator of men in this variety of gods, could be any of them, and serving those gods would require very different requirements.

Obviously Jehovah God, the God who called Abraham and whom Jesus Christ regarded as his own Father, is a God who has very different requirements from those who wish to serve Him and have His approval.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Alhamulillah, I have no God. I do what my bringing up and education advises me. No conflicts, no doubts.

 

[Mukhtar Farid]

Human beings do not have to speculate about what God expects of us, His creation.

When he made a pact with the Israelites, he gave them very precise laws, which although today are not applicable to Christians, they tell us what pleases God and what he will never accept that humans practice.

Jesus was asked about the most important commandment of the Law:

Matt. 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

Anything that shows disrespect for Jehovah God or carelessness in dealings with others is unacceptable from the standpoint of our Creator. Obviously, this is a simple and easy to understand generalization.

In reality, achieving reconciliation with our Creator as part of his universal family required the payment of a very high price: the human life of Jesus, and only by recognizing and appealing to that legal resource can we consider the possibility of reconciliation.

don’t get me wrong jesus was amazing person but the whole died for our sins make no sense.we are all accountable for our sins I don’t believe he died for it rather he died to show how much he loved all of creation including the Roman’s and the rabbis -goes back to my point 1 of what God expects of us unconditional love towards all of creation.

 

[Mukhtar Farid]

don’t get me wrong jesus was amazing person but the whole died for our sins make no sense.we are all accountable for our sins I don’t believe he died for it rather he died to show how much he loved all of creation including the Roman’s and the rabbis -goes back to my point 1 of what God expects of us unconditional love towards all of creation.

Also each one of us do what has been decreed for us by the almighty. If I were in the shoes of the criminal I would definitely do the same crime he did whereas if a criminal was in my shoes and I am good person he would be also a good person. Hell is an illusion as is the judgement day. God will snap his fingers,erase trauma of sufferers,erase the concept of evil and everyone will go to heaven. So bottom line is as much you love a cat and dog or some cute pet you must love even the snake,scorpion or spider too-they are all creations of my God who is also your God.

 

[Mukhtar Farid]

Can't do that there are some people that don't deserve love

My response:Every creation deserves love.To be one with God we need to love every creation good or bad or otherwise.

I guess you have never been in proximity of a terrorist bomb and never been raped

My response:We need to do what Jesus(pbuh) did at gun point we must love and forgive.

Love is earned, it isn't given away freely. Compassion for pedophiles, terrorists etc? No thanks. The only mercy some people deserve is the mercy of facing justice

My response:Love has to be free,compassion and mercy also free

Human vices tend to be subjective. You vices are not mine and mine are not yours

My Response:there is nothing subjective about murder,oppression,rape,thievery,lying,illicit self pleasure.Cleansing the soul requires removal of these vices


Which creator? Count the different creator gods that have been worshiped throughout recorded history and you won't up with close to 4000 gods. I still haven't worked out how that could work

My Response:I have reason to believe that there is only one God.All gods throughout history taught the importance of ethicality.

See 5

What you do is upto you but following these 4 guidelines will improve your life.the principles of
1.Unconditional Love for all of creation
2.immense mercy and compassion towards all of creation
3.abstinence from vices of all kinds
4.repentance to the creator for self and all of creation
5.gratefulness to the creator for self and all of creation
Evidently I failed today-ended up eating too much instead of as much as needed.Nevermind will try tomorrow again.

 

[ChristineM]

What you do is upto you but following these 4 guidelines will improve your life

Please don't presume what will improve other people's lives.

1.Unconditional Love for all of creation

So you love pedophiles, rapists, murderers etc? Ok, sorry but living such heinous offences to humanity is not going to improve anything, but may encourage more such violence.

2.immense mercy and compassion towards all of creation

See above

3.abstinence from vices of all kinds

Why, so longas no one is hurt what is wrong with a little vice on occasion?

4.repentance to the creator for self and all of creation

As i said, which one?

5.gratefulness to the creator for self and all of creation

See above

Evidently I failed today-ended up eating too much instead of as much as needed.Nevermind will try tomorrow again.

Whatever makes you happy

 

[Mukhtar Farid]

Please don't presume what will improve other people's lives.

I am not presuming anything sister . It is simply the truth. Basically don’t engage in evil. Going for an eye for an eye is evil. Basically you respond to evil with good not evil. The path of vengeance and justice is evil. But once again as I have said the Choice is yours but once you depart this world don’t be surprised to find a super merciful creator.

So you love pedophiles, rapists, murderers etc? Ok, sorry but living such heinous offences to humanity is not going to improve anything, but may encourage more such violence.

I love everyone period not just rapists and murderers. I love all of creation including snakes,scorpions,mammals,sea creatures,mankind, planets,solar systems et. Etc.and loving unconditionally is a staple requirement. I love the person who pulls the trigger on me too. I know it sounds crazy but that is what unconditional love is. When I was young a bully took his shoe and touched me with it. I love him too. I got fired from 2 jobs I love them too.


See above



Why, so longas no one is hurt what is wrong with a little vice on occasion?



As i said, which one?

As I have said there is a God-one God your God my God our God.


See above



Whatever makes you happy

It did not make me happy because there are people on the world struggling to get their regular meal.

 

[ChristineM]

It did not make me happy because there are people on the world struggling to get their regular meal.

No it is not "the" truth but it may be your truth

I guess you have never been injured by a terrorist bomb, or been raped or tried to reason with a psychopath.

And as i said, there are at least different 4200 god ideas worshipped by humans, and around 3800 of them were creator gods.

 

[Mukhtar Farid]

peace be upon you sister,

No it is not "the" truth but it may be your truth


I guess you have never been injured by a terrorist bomb, or been raped or tried to reason with a psychopath.


stubbornness is powerful weapon when both the good and evil use it. The trouble often the evil one instigates us to use stubbornness for our own purpose rather than benevolence

And as i said, there are at least different 4200 god ideas worshipped by humans, and around 3800 of them were creator gods.

the truth is love conquers all-hence unconditional love.

a psychopath cannot defeat a benevolent psychopath which is what I intend to do. So at hi point I have to forgive. That’s what Jesus did at torture and crucifixion death point he said father forgive them they know not what they do

Yes but In my opinion and as you said my truth which may be applicable for all of you depending on what you choose through free will there is only one God the God who created the ever expanding universe. Mathematical equivalent of this god is 1/0 we can’t even comprehend his form.

In the case of rape ,I have been abused as a child-but I still forgive this person even though he took advantage of naiveness.
Also couple of months back I had a conflict with a coworker they ended up putting me prison for a day and had me take off all my clothes. But the dutiful response is to forgive them and so I did though it took effort. When people think along lines of unconditional love then the problem of being an active shooter dissolves away.

anyway there is no compulsion in what I saying if you ponder you may find the same answer or an answer applicable to your understanding

also in the afterlife the concept of hell is an illusion that was never God’s plan.heaven was.

Also today I lost my job again due to my slowness and laziness...but I am not blaming anyone.When I showed up for the job I was beggar and I left as a beggar.

peace be upon you,
Peace,
Amin/Amen

 

[ChristineM]

peace be upon you sister,

Yes but In my opinion and as you said my truth which may be applicable for all of you depending on what you choose through free will there is only one God the God who created the ever expanding universe. Mathematical equivalent of this god is 1/0 we can’t even comprehend his form.

In the case of rape ,I have been abused as a child-but I still forgive this person even though he took advantage of naiveness.
Also couple of months back I had a conflict with a coworker they ended up putting me prison for a day and had me take off all my clothes. But the dutiful response is to forgive them and so I did though it took effort. When people think along lines of unconditional love then the problem of being an active shooter dissolves away.

anyway there is no compulsion in what I saying if you ponder you may find the same answer or an answer applicable to your understanding

also in the afterlife the concept of hell is an illusion that was never God’s plan.heaven was.

peace be upon you,
Peace,
Amin/Amen

Not applicable to non believers, not applicable to those believers who don't believe in your god.

You can forgive your abuser? That is something i can never do. We obviously have different outlooks.

Prison for an work conflict? Wow, that's some conflict.

My understanding is there is no god or anything to do with supernatural woo. Other people have other ideas, that's up to them