The lady of heaven movie and Sunni protests

[firedragon]

As I said before, your material is getting stale. You need a new schtick.

Irrelevant.

 

[Altfish]

Who tried to impose it on you in this thread mate? This thread is not about God. It's about a move. And that movie does not insult God. So this is an illness you are showing, just like some other people in this thread.

The people protesting are stopping me from seeing that film at that cinema chain. That is an imposition.

 

[firedragon]

The people protesting are stopping me from seeing that film at that cinema chain. That is an imposition.

Which cinema are they stopping you from? Where do you live? And what does that have to do with GOd? This film is not about God. So your obsession is anyway pretty apparent.

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

I don’t see how anyone could be offended by The Life of Brian, but plenty of people were.

I think some people feel the need they ought to be outraged by such parodies as a means to acknowledge the sanctity of their traditions, and therefore display their loyalty to God.
When I was in my "Ultra Pious" phase (but raised in an atheist/agnostic, secular environment where virtually nothing is sacred, which has affected me as well), I often felt morally conflicted about such matters.

 

[ajay0]

The film was made by a Muslim cleric named Yasser Al Habib . I am wondering how this is bound to amount to blasphemy of any sort !

The issue could be the difference from the Sunni perspective, and the differences between Fatimah and the first Caliph Abu Bakr, and the Shia's believe her husband Ali should have been the rightful successor of Muhammad instead of Abu Bakr.

The theme could be that the abuse of religious and political authority by Abu Bakr lead to the injuries and death of Fatima, which is compared to the similar abuse of authority by ISIS (and taliban) in present times.

If so, this is a good theme that can hopefully invite more introspection and reflection, and reduce religious and political violence not just in islamic society but elsewhere too .

 

[RestlessSoul]

The people protesting are stopping me from seeing that film at that cinema chain. That is an imposition.

You just said you hadn’t heard of it until cineworld or whoever cancelled it. Now your rights are being infringed? I know, let’s all get outraged, by a film no one was planning to watch.

 

[Altfish]

You just said you hadn’t heard of it until cineworld or whoever cancelled it. Now your rights are being infringed? I know, let’s all get outraged, by a film no one was planning to watch.


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Yes, but when they brought it to my attention I want to know what the fuss is about.
Anything that is banned is of interest to me.

 

[firedragon]

The film was made by a Muslim cleric named Yasser Al Habib . I am wondering how this is bound to amount to blasphemy of any sort !

The issue could be the difference from the Sunni perspective, and the differences between Fatimah and the first Caliph Abu Bakr, and the Shia's believe her husband Ali should have been the rightful successor of Muhammad instead of Abu Bakr.

The theme could be that the abuse of religious and political authority by Abu Bakr lead to the injuries and death of Fatima, which is compared to the similar abuse of authority by ISIS (and taliban) in present times.

If so, this is a good theme that can hopefully invite more introspection and reflection, and reduce religious and political violence not just in islamic society but elsewhere too .

Have you watched the movie?

 

[firedragon]

The theme could be that the abuse of religious and political authority by Abu Bakr lead to the injuries and death of Fatima, which is compared to the similar abuse of authority by ISIS (and taliban) in present times.

1. What do you know about this so called "history"? Why do you believe what you said above mentioning "could be" as some kind of false disclaimer? What is the chain of narrations, who are in the chain? What are levels of these people in the chain? What analysis have you done?

2. Let's say as you have asserted Abu Bakr is the boogey man. Why is he black? Why are every single person portayed as the "bad people" black? Is there something "Bad" about the colour black?

I understand you want to equate this to ISIS, and any movie that does it you will embrace with open arms even though the Shia's themselves globally have condemned this movie. It's strange atheists and what ever you are are loving it and fighting hard for it, even bringing God into it, while the Shii's and Sunni's are both condemning this movie. It's hilarious.

 

[stvdv]

I agree,them coming here is not the problem but they bring their culture with them and recreate the same backward culture here and imo that’s the problem.

The only thing these Muslims do, is to exhibit their own ignorance and lack of common sense and extreme violent behavior. Totally forgetting that Islam is called "The Religion of Peace"

The West accepting their behavior is also ignorant and weak, and digging their own grave

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

Anything that is banned is of interest to me.

Some banned stuff can take away your freedom and get your reputation destroyed forever...

 

[Altfish]

Some banned stuff can take away your freedom and get your reputation destroyed forever...

I do have the ability to weigh up which is legal and worthy of my attention.

 

[England my lionheart]

The only thing these Muslims do, is to exhibit their own ignorance and lack of common sense and extreme violent behavior. Totally forgetting that Islam is called "The Religion of Peace"

The West accepting their behavior is also ignorant and weak, and digging their own grave

Everyone has a right to demonstrate in the UK provided they don’t incite violence,afaik there hasn’t been any so far but the problem is the track record of some Muslims violent acts for depictions of their prophet.

IMO this is even more reason to show this movie,as far as I’m concerned Muslims living here just have accept our rules and our freedom.

 

[KWED]

"loathsome partiality"

That's an expression I shall be shouting at refs next season.

 

[firedragon]

The only thing these Muslims do, is to exhibit their own ignorance and lack of common sense and extreme violent behavior. Totally forgetting that Islam is called "The Religion of Peace"

The West accepting their behavior is also ignorant and weak, and digging their own grave

That's surprising. Where did they show violent behaviour? I am really ignorant on that so do you have any protest where they were violent?

Also, where in the Qur'an is the Islam called "The religion of Peace"? That's also kind of surprising really. Maybe I am ignorant on that as well so please advice on that.

Thanks in advance.

 

[KWED]

If it were about Jesus no-one would care.

Double standards.

Not familiar with the protests and bans on productions dealing with Christianity over the years then?

 

[Rival]

Not familiar with the protests and bans on productions dealing with Christianity over the years then?

Not in my country, not in my lifetime.

 

[England my lionheart]

That's an expression I shall be shouting at refs next season.

I will probably question if there’d knows who his father is.

 

[England my lionheart]

Not familiar with the protests and bans on productions dealing with Christianity over the years then?

There were bombings by Christian’s on cinemas in Paris for showing “the last temptation of Christ” but haven’t heard of it here.

 

[KWED]

Seems to me that their religion is so fragile that they behave this way,if it was strong it could withstand anything,cartoons Charlie Hebdo and all.

This is very true. The truth will stand up to examination, ridicule rejection, etc, without change, but falsehood withers under a strong light.

"But it's disrespectful!" - So what? Respect is a vague and subjective concept.

"But we find it offensive!" - Don't watch it then.

What's more, when people point out that the Quran can be "disrespectful" or "offensive" to some people, they claim that is disrespectful and offensive!