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Hillary Clinton Approved Lies about Trump

F1fan

Veteran Member
Well given Trump is a conman, highly corrupt, a chronic liar, has been impeached twice, and is being investigated in numerous ways for his election fraud claims and corruption, it's not a huge deal that Clinton released data of Trump being corrupt, even if Trump wasn't guilty of corruption in this one case.

It's like if Clinton lied about Charlie Manson having unpaid parking tickets, in the big picture, it's not a huge deal.

Of course FOX is going to think this is terrible and a big deal. It just isn't that big a deal in the broad context of how corrupt and unethical Trump is known to be.
 
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KW

Well-Known Member
I would say "reasonably confident" should suffice. "Total" confidence isn't necessary imo.


They shouldn't be releasing fraudulent leaks to the media for political gain.

They created the lies, so of course they knew they were false.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
They shouldn't be releasing fraudulent leaks to the media for political gain.
Right. Or even Come announcing an investigation into Clinton 10 days before the election, and this investigation turned out to be nothing. It wasn't even about Clinton, it was the laptop of Clinton's assistance who was married to Anthony Weiner, and Weiner was in trouble for sexting. This was the fatal blow to Clinton's poll numbers.

They created the lies, so of course they knew they were false.
Do you have evidence of this, or are you lying?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Oh wow, did you just say that given the amount of fraudulent, fake news put out by trump and his cronies and repeated regularly by faux news
And we are supposed to trust FOX news? Or those who use FOX as a media source?

No. We have serious suspicions of bad faith and poor journalistic ethics. Conservatives need to find a reputable source and then they will have credibility. Until then, conservatives are assumed to be untrustworthy until they demonstrate they can be trusted. That is the backlash of electing Trump and believing his lies.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Sussmann trial: MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC ignore testimony that Clinton OK’d leaking of Trump-Russian allegations | Fox News

Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Clinton approved the dissemination of materials to the media alleging a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.

Trump approved lies about Clinton, Obama, CORONA, the election, his role in Ukraine, the amount of his wealth, the size of his inauguration, his role in the insurrection, the number of women he's sexually assaulted, etc. etc., etc.
 

KW

Well-Known Member
Right. Or even Come announcing an investigation into Clinton 10 days before the election, and this investigation turned out to be nothing. It wasn't even about Clinton, it was the laptop of Clinton's assistance who was married to Anthony Weiner, and Weiner was in trouble for sexting. This was the fatal blow to Clinton's poll numbers.


Do you have evidence of this, or are you lying?


Of course. Have you even been watching this testimony?

Steele was a paid Democrat operative.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Sussmann trial: MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC ignore testimony that Clinton OK’d leaking of Trump-Russian allegations | Fox News

Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Clinton approved the dissemination of materials to the media alleging a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.
What is your general opinion then about anyone in public office who regularly tells lies?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
And we are supposed to trust FOX news? Or those who use FOX as a media source?

No. We have serious suspicions of bad faith and poor journalistic ethics. Conservatives need to find a reputable source and then they will have credibility. Until then, conservatives are assumed to be untrustworthy until they demonstrate they can be trusted. That is the backlash of electing Trump and believing his lies.

Fox is owned by Murdoch so i will expect nothing different
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Of course. Have you even been watching this testimony?

Steele was a paid Democrat operative.
After being a paid Republican operative trying to find dirt on Trump.

The Steele Dossier issue is a bigger outrage with conservatives than liberals, and that is because it was used as a successful disinformation vehicle for easily duped conservatives consumers of fake FOX news coverage. You don't seem to realize that repeating all these fake news stories makes you look less and less credible. And more desperate. Are you going to end this discussion by claiming Trump won in 2020?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sussmann trial: MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC ignore testimony that Clinton OK’d leaking of Trump-Russian allegations | Fox News

Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Clinton approved the dissemination of materials to the media alleging a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.
I made a thread myself about this very thing.

These people will lie and do anything to 'win'..
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think that politics is a dirty game...and it is better not to be part of it.

For example, If I were a politician, I would never lie or cheat to discredit my opponent. Because I don't wan't to go to Hell.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
New Well given Trump is a conman, highly corrupt, a chronic liar, has been impeached twice, and is being investigated in numerous ways for his election fraud claims and corruption, it's not a huge deal that Clinton released data of Trump being corrupt, even if Trump wasn't guilty of corruption in this one case.
So it's ok to lie about someone if they also lie? Great ethics there!
 
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