Summary execution for mass murderers.

[an anarchist]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

 

[74x12]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

I sympathize with the sentiment but I think justice should be blind and they should be given as fair a trial as possible. Also there should be investigation to figure out if there is more to the story. Perhaps someone aided the shooter. If you execute him to early then you risk never finding that out. So I'm voting nay on the expediation.

 

[Debater Slayer]

On paper, the idea might sound emotionally satisfying, but human nature is too fickle and inconsistent for summary execution not to eventually be abused and employed to frame and eliminate innocent people.

Besides, once that door is opened, where do we draw the line? Is a mass murderer more deserving of summary execution than, say, a rapist or a child molester? What about mass murderers who have mental issues that require professional care rather than execution?

It's a rabbit hole that I don't believe any society should let itself go down. What starts out as a righteously indignant exception may well descend into a normalized, lethal tool of political and social oppression.

 

[ChristineM]

Speaking as an outsider to american justice, summary execution, although emotionally pleasing, should never be considered. The law has developed over a couple of hundred years to be fair and unbiased , it should take its course, and if found guilty without mitigation the the full weight of the law needs to jump on the guilty party with a heavy hand. There may however be mitigating which summary execution can not consider.

 

[danieldemol]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

Would you kill a wolf for eating meat if you could safely isolate it from your livestock?

If so why? Is it because it fulfills a sadistic desire to see something suffer for being the way nature/nurture made it?

How about if you drew the genetic and or nurture short straw in life and were the killer, would you want to be killed for something which is a fault of nature not of your own when you could be safely isolated and perhaps even have your fault rectified in the future through advances in science? All to fulfill a sick emotional need for revenge which is itself a defect of nature?

How strongly do you believe in free-will? I'd argue that *if* you dont believe in it throwing away an entire human just because of a brain or environmental defect makes as little sense as throwing away an entire car due to a faulty steering wheel or due to a pothole in the road.

In my opinion.

 

[Valjean]

Had they executed Saul for his treatment of Christians, we wouldn't have a Saint Paul.

People change, and 18-year-olds are works in progress.
He decided to summarily destroy something that annoyed or threatened him. If this was wrong, in his case, why would it be right for us?

 

[Heyo]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

Try and put yourself in the shoes of the shooter.
Oh, wait, you already did. He believes in a society where he who has the superior firepower has the right to kill "inferior" people. If he could convince you so easily of his idea, he won.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Sorry, strong believer in a justice system that provides equal protection for all -- and especially that doesn't jump to conclusions (especially "final" ones).

 

[Suave]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

I'd like the white supremacist mass murderer be imprisoned for the rest of his expected short life in a racially integrated correctional facility, where there would then also be a dead man walking.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

I think that decision ought to be left to the victims families to decide.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'd like the white supremacist mass murderer be imprisoned for the rest of his expected short life in a racially integrated correctional facility, where there would then also be a dead man walking.

Would that include racial killings by other races or just whites?

 

[Wildswanderer]

I'm all about due process but after that, yes, he should be executed.

 

[Suave]

Would that include racial killings by other races or just whites?

As far as I know, besides white supremacists, there are hardly any other racial supremacists.

 

[Twilight Hue]

As far as I know, besides white supremacists, there are hardly any other racial supremacists.

That's not realistic at all. But you are self simulated, so I guess reality dosent matter.

 

[esmith]

As far as I know, besides white supremacists, there are hardly any other racial supremacists.

Hmm;
Black supremacy - Wikipedia

• The Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ (ICGJC), which is headquartered in New York City, was described in 2008 by the SPLC as an American "black supremacist sect" and part of the growing "black supremacist wing of the Hebrew Israelite movement". The ICGJC accepts the Old and New Testaments and the Apocrypha as inspired Scripture and has an apocalyptic view of the end of the world.[11]
• The Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge (ISUPK), based in the Upper Darby Township of Philadelphia.[12]
• The Nation of Islam (NOI) is a religious organization founded by Wallace Fard Muhammad in the United States in 1930. They have been described by the SPLC as having "a theology of innate black superiority over whites".[13] SPLC cites the NOI leaders' "deeply racist, antisemitic and anti-LGBT rhetoric" as reasons for the organization being categorized as a hate group.[13]
• The Nation of Yahweh is a religious group based in the United States described as black supremacist by the SPLC. It is an offshoot of the Black Hebrew Israelite line of thought. It was founded by American Yahweh ben Yahweh (born Hulon Mitchell Jr.), whose name means "God the Son of God" in Hebrew. The Nation of Yahweh grew rapidly throughout the 1980s and at its height had headquarters in Miami, Florida, and temples in 22 states,[14] ben Yahweh was imprisoned for 11 years for his links to nearly two dozen murders, and later released on restrictive parole.[15]
• The United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors was founded by the American Dwight York, who has been described by the SPLC as advocating the belief that black people are superior to white people. The SPLC reported that York's teachings included the belief that "whites are 'devils', devoid of both heart and soul, their color the result of leprosy and genetic inferiority".[16] The SPLC described the Nuwaubianism belief system as "mix[ing] black supremacist ideas with worship of the Egyptians and their pyramids, a belief in UFOs and various conspiracy theories related to the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers".[17]

 

[GardenLady]

The United States has a horrible history of capital punishment; it is too often imposed on the poor and people of color, but not upon the white and well-to-do who commit similar crimes. Either our laws of due process apply to all, or they are bankrupt.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I’ve felt sickened ever since I saw the news of the Buffalo shooting. I am following the news story, though I shouldn’t as it’s just making me sad and anxious to go out.
I say, if there is no doubt in mind as to who the perpetrator of a mass murder is, then their trial should be expedited and they should be executed summarily. Like within a week or so. I’m sure many of these psychos value their own lives. The Buffalo shooter didn’t blow his brains out. He’s a coward. He pleaded not guilty because he wants attention and a long trial. What if we just killed him? Due process? Expedite it. The guy obviously did it. His appeal? Give him a day. Execute him promptly. Mass shooters are cowards who often are too scared to die themselves. So what if we killed them? Perhaps that would deter some.
I’m just mad and sickened

I think you are wrong on this, and that it is the fact that many don't value their own lives as to why some might kill others. The numbers who die at the hands of the police or by their own hand might suggest such - that their life is just not worth living and hence are capable of such horrific acts before they die themselves. So a last act of vengeance or hatred expressed perhaps. Not all of course. And the death penalty seemingly has never been a deterrent, plus there are always mistakes such as wrongful convictions.