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What is Demonization/Possession

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Pretty straight forward. A post from another thread has me wondering exactly what this means.

Anyone?

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That is simple. All other Gods and so on are not really Gods in religions with only one True God and thus in this cases they are aspects of Satan and the Demons, who work for Satan.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Isn't it just a term to cover mental illness used by those who don't understand mental illness?
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
Pretty straight forward. A post from another thread has me wondering exactly what this means.

Anyone?
It can be referring to several different things:
1. Political ideology. For example it is popular today to survey the population to find out what we are all thinking, what demon possesses us currently.
2. Illness which acts through invisible contagion: plague or a cold
3. Madness or other mental illness
4. The departed ghost of a dead person who somehow influences, talks through a person such as through a medium. They should be dead but they are influencing the living, instead. In many parts of the world there are stories about this happening. Usually they are scary stories.
5. A song stuck in your head or thought or crush. "I can't sleep, because I'm in love with this girl."
6. An aspect of your personality. There may have been ancient practitioners of meditation who faced aspects of themselves as if they had identities. I cannot verify this, however I have posted a documentary video about it. Possibly then somebody could say 'Demon' and be talking about their pride or their fear etc.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Pretty straight forward. A post from another thread has me wondering exactly what this means.

Anyone?



@ElishaElijah

I suspect an entity created by one's unconscious mind takes over.

I think the self we experience as being is such a creation too. Normally we experience life as this self. However the self is a minor function of the brain. It is possible that in some folks this self can get swapped out with another. One self not being conscious of the other.

Like split or multiple personalities, yet this personality being of a demonic nature because of too much exposure to religious idealism.
 

VoidCat

Pronouns: he/him/they/them
Interestingly I have another take on possession. See most think Christianity when it comes to possession. But in some religions folk willingly allow their deities to possess them. It's no different then being filled with the Holy Spirit which in my opinion (and I know Christians will disagree) is a form of possession.

Like in a particular religion I forgot the name im blanking on it it'll come to me the deities are called orisha. In some cases practitioners of the religion allow the deity to temporarily fill them up in ritual. Basically possess them.

I've done a practice similar with one deity in particular. Not the same practice as I don't worship the orisha nor am i part of the religion that does(man it's going to drive me nuts trying to remember the name of the religion) But I did a different practice that basically was similar to possession not tho like how christians think of possesion. Again basically it was similar to being filled with the Holy Spirit what I did.
 
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VoidCat

Pronouns: he/him/they/them
Interestingly I have another take on possession. See most think Christianity when it comes to possession. But in some religions folk willingly allow their deities to possess them. It's no different then being filled with the Holy Spirit which in my opinion (and I know Christians will disagree) is a form of possession.

Like in a particular religion I forgot the name im blanking on it it'll come to me the deities are called orisha. In some cases practitioners of the religion allow the deity to temporarily fill them up in ritual. Basically possess them.

I've done a practice similar with one deity in particular. Not the same practice as I don't worship the orisha nor am i part of the religion that does(man it's going to drive me nuts trying to remember the name of the religion) But I did a different practice that basically was similar to possession not tho like how christians think of possesion. Again basically it was similar to being filled with the Holy Spirit what I did.
Ah it's two religions.
Yoruba and Santería. I was thinking of the latter
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Seems to me indicative of mental illness, depression and wanting a way out of her predicament.
Yes, that is the secular explanation except they photographed the appearing teeth marks.
 

Viker

Häxan
Yes, that is the secular explanation except they photographed the appearing teeth marks.
She bit herself? Not being there myself I can't help but scrutinize.

*I can't find any photographic evidence of teeth marks.

1953, May 9-19 (ca.): The Invisible Fangs.
**'Zaguirre observed a "bite-like" mark on the right side of the nape of Villanueva's neck. Goduco and Zaguirre concluded that instead of being bitten by invisible attackers, Villanueva was actually suffering from a nervous disorder known as a 'hysterical fugue' or 'hysteria psychoneurosis,' and that what was being mistaken for 'bite marks' on her skin were actually "only changes in skin coloring caused by the nervous fits."This mental state, they claimed, was brought on by Villanueva's desperate need to escape from the life she was trapped in.'
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
She bit herself? Not being there myself I can't help but scrutinize.

*I can't find any photographic evidence of teeth marks.

1953, May 9-19 (ca.): The Invisible Fangs.
**'Zaguirre observed a "bite-like" mark on the right side of the nape of Villanueva's neck. Goduco and Zaguirre concluded that instead of being bitten by invisible attackers, Villanueva was actually suffering from a nervous disorder known as a 'hysterical fugue' or 'hysteria psychoneurosis,' and that what was being mistaken for 'bite marks' on her skin were actually "only changes in skin coloring caused by the nervous fits."This mental state, they claimed, was brought on by Villanueva's desperate need to escape from the life she was trapped in.'
No... you can't bite your neck.

Yes... there is always those who say "that couldn't have happened". Except that wasn't what was photographed and reported.

Those are what people who weren't there say.

Who knows, maybe there are people who say Jesus wasn't raised from the dead too, no matter how many witnesses would say otherwise.
 

Viker

Häxan
No... you can't bite your neck.

Yes... there is always those who say "that couldn't have happened". Except that wasn't what was photographed and reported.

Those are what people who weren't there say.

Who knows, maybe there are people who say Jesus wasn't raised from the dead too, no matter how many witnesses would say otherwise.
Personally, I don't believe in unwilling uninvited demonic possession, especially with a disturbed minor. There's just no significant 'hammer on the head' evidence of such.

People don't believe that I do/can work with the demonic. Others believe I'm in peril for doing so. I have no proof only personal testimony. Eye witness accounts can be mistaken, marked with what one wishes to have seen or completely fabricated (such as book called Michelle Remembers). The best we have is testimony in that regard. It's up for scrutiny and can be critically examined. No one has to believe a thing. They're just going to accept what they will.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Personally, I don't believe in unwilling uninvited demonic possession, especially with a disturbed minor. There's just no significant 'hammer on the head' evidence of such.

People don't believe that I do/can work with the demonic. Others believe I'm in peril for doing so. I have no proof only personal testimony. Eye witness accounts can be mistaken, marked with what one wishes to have seen or completely fabricated (such as book called Michelle Remembers). The best we have is testimony in that regard. It's up for scrutiny and can be critically examined. No one has to believe a thing. They're just going to accept what they will.

I don't think that is the subject matter, only that what is it and, imv, if it exists.

Whether there can be an demonic possession for a disturbed minor is difficult to know especially since one doesn't know if the person was unwilling or not.

that being said, there are thing that are just a physical problem and not spiritual.

Had a friend who had a spiritual guide and never was a problem until he didn't want her any more. He was delivered. (I wasn't involved in the deliverance, his pastor was)
 
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