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10 killed in Buffalo, NY store shooting!

Should high-capacity magazines of civilian firearms be banned?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 28 70.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 9 22.5%
  • Maybe/Don't Know.

    Votes: 3 7.5%

  • Total voters
    40

F1fan

Veteran Member
So if I'm a criminal about to kill people am I going to stop and decide that I can't use a lot of bullets because high capacity mags are illegal? You know what happened when they banned them before in one state? Nothing. The people who had them just hid them.
Or you were deemed too untrustworthy by a law enforcement screening when you applied for a high powered, semi-auto rifle, so you were denied. And law enforcement has been able to crack down on private sales of guns so they stop ending up in a black market, so you couldn't find one. Therefore no one was murdered in a mass killing. This could happen with sensible laws.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
A car racing into a parade of people would kill just as many... don't suggest we not sell cars either.
I would love if the US regulated firearms anywhere close to the way that they regulate cars.

BTW: you do realize that this person shot up a supermarket, right? Do you really see people going on a killing spree in a supermarket with their car as something that has a reasonable chance of happening?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Maybe support the police would also help?
And I think supporting the police would be establishing gun access laws so they don't have to show up at mass murder crime scenes like this. Innocent people minding their own business just mowed down because guns are easy to get.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
New York already has a high capacity ban statewide. Your late to the party.

Like I said ad nauseum, that criminals don't care about laws. They don't matter if they are there or not.

Laws are just a feel good way to gleefully
take and eliminate 2nd amendment rights out of the picture under the guise of personal safety.
Do you think the current restrictions on belt-fed, fully automatic guns violate the 2nd amendment? What about rocket propelled grenades? Those are arms, so shouldn't you have a right to them? Why or why not?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You appear to be assuming that they are "evil" in a mythical demonic sort of way. Many people are evil in an "I want to kill a bunch of people without working too hard" way. This shooter did not appear to have to do anything to spectacular to get his gear. Why make it easy for such people?
could I have a source about this person? Or are we speculating at this point.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Police have plenty of support, but they can't predict who in society is unstable and owns guns. That should be law enforcement screening people before they buy guns.
Actually, New York as a "depend the police" support.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I would love if the US regulated firearms anywhere close to the way that they regulate cars.

BTW: you do realize that this person shot up a supermarket, right? Do you really see people going on a killing spree in a supermarket with their car as something that has a reasonable chance of happening?
You do know that someone ran a van through a parade, right?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Do you think the current restrictions on belt-fed, fully automatic guns violate the 2nd amendment? What about rocket propelled grenades? Those are arms, so shouldn't you have a right to them? Why or why not?

Hey if Arnold can have a tank....

 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
could I have a source about this person? Or are we speculating at this point.
I am speculating just as you are. From my experience, in the news stories I have checked out even if mass shooters got the gun illegally they did not have to try to hard. Locally one kid just took his father's gun. Kyle Rittenhouse had a friend make a straw purchase for him. Neither of these were large magazine events, but in both multiple people were shot. They would both have been avoided with stronger gun control laws.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
You do know that someone ran a van through a parade, right?
So we members of society should just accept our losses to disturbed people? It could be people you love next, and you just have a passive attitude about it?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I wouldn't. The black market is the black market. Mexico is an open border. If an evil person wants to get a hold of something, he will find a way.
The border between Canada and the US is more open than your border with Mexico.

St. Catharines, Ontario is near Buffalo, about as far west of the Niagara River as Buffalo is east. The median household income in both cities is well below the national average.

The homicide rate in St. Catharines is 1.0 per year per 100,000. The homicide rate in Buffalo is 24.0 per year per 100,000.

How do you explain this major difference?

Personally, I think it comes down mostly to stricter firearm laws on our side of the border; apparently you disagree... so what do you think is causing the murder rate in Buffalo to be so much higher than this other nearby city?
 
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