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Does God use a channel ?

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Ok... I think we are going to get nowhere very fast.

Mark 11:10
Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

Luke 1:32
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Jesus apparently had no problem with this statement. You need to dig deeper and find out what he meant about calling someone Father vs. father.

Even Jesus used it:
Luke 15:11-13
King James Version

11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:

12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.

Being CALLED something and BEING what one is called is not always the same thing. In John chapter 8, Jesus, the Son of God, was called a Devil and a liar for opposing Abraham and David.
The men saying, "Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest." are not converted disciples of Jesus. They are Jews that Jesus has been attempting to convert that will only accept Jesus as the Christ if Jesus will say he is the seed of David coming to establish the kingdom that serves Abraham and David's bloodline rule. Jesus refused to serve any belief in Abraham because Abraham is a liar. Joseph, the seed of David, did not pass that seed to Jesus because Joseph is not the biological father of Jesus. Many Jews seeing the power of Jesus given to him by God will follow Jesus but only if Jesus serves David and Abraham by saying their lies are truth making Jesus conceived by fornication between Joseph and Mary (as the Jew Paul believes) thus making the "bloodline covenant" the source of his power from God.
Jesus will not do that because it is not truth. Abraham has no covenant with God. No son of Abraham will rule Earth but the supporters of Abraham do cause the final nuclear war that will be fought in an attempt to establish a dominate ruler of Earth. Jesus, the Son of God, says all fall in that attempt.
The Son of the God that creates life is no man's killer.
But Jesus Christ does warn killers will come in his name and the "prince of kings" (serving kings desiring a throne not serving God that commands not to kill), the Son of Man has nothing in him, no mercy for the innocent, and he will fight and die as a "sacrifice" for his beliefs in that final man made world nuclear war.
 
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Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Just curious, all that you have shared is very strange and, quite frankly, I've never encountered before in my 40 years of knowing Jesus as Lord...

What is your story? Your faith background?
My story is I listen to Jesus and hear his words so I believe Jesus speaks the truth. I follow Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of the Living God, as his disciple.
Jesus speaks to everyone but most do not hear what he is saying.
The followers of Moses ate manna and are DEAD because they worshipped a pagan Lord God that demands war and human sacrifice. There is no water of life in Jacobs well, it is filled with nothing but dead men's bones because they believed Abraham's lies were truth.
Jesus said, "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should BETRAY him."
Believe Jesus should hang on a cross for calling himself the Son of God and Jesus should die for sin even though he is innocent, is betraying Jesus as Judas did.
John 6:68
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life."
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
My story is I listen to Jesus and hear his words so I believe Jesus speaks the truth. I follow Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of the Living God, as his disciple.
Jesus speaks to everyone but most do not hear what he is saying.
The followers of Moses ate manna and are DEAD because they worshipped a pagan Lord God that demands war and human sacrifice. There is no water of life in Jacobs well, it is filled with nothing but dead men's bones because they believed Abraham's lies were truth.
Jesus said, "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should BETRAY him."
Believe Jesus should hang on a cross for calling himself the Son of God and Jesus should die for sin even though he is innocent, is betraying Jesus as Judas did.
John 6:68
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life."
Do you have a church/pastor?

what I meant about your journey... church history? How you came to receive Jesus as Lord?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
2 Peter 3:15
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

The Apostle Peter did not agree with you.
And I believe you are 100% correct.

This may come across as being self-serving, but what I'm going to post next is absolutely true.

About 25 years ago I took a three-evening seminar through a theologian named James Lyons who taught them at his local church [Protestant], elsewhere in the States and Canada, and also in Israel. In the second session, he mentioned that he though Paul basically was a renegade that didn't reflect many of the teachings of the Apostles.

During our "halftime" break, I went up to him and asked how was this possible with his original background? He asked me to clarify what I was asking, so I said with Paul's previous persecution of the Church, why would Peter and the Others even give him the time of day if he was spouting heretical nonsense, especially since we know that Paul approached Peter on certain issues three times at least, plus there's the letters? The break was ending, so he said thanks for my opinion.

At the beginning of the third and final session, he started out by saying that he changed his mind and no longer believed Paul was some sort of outlier. I could have been knocked over with a feather when he said that.

True story, no embellishment.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
And I believe you are 100% correct.

This may come across as being self-serving, but what I'm going to post next is absolutely true.

About 25 years ago I took a three-evening seminar through a theologian named James Lyons who taught them at his local church [Protestant], elsewhere in the States and Canada, and also in Israel. In the second session, he mentioned that he though Paul basically was a renegade that didn't reflect many of the teachings of the Apostles.

During our "halftime" break, I went up to him and asked how was this possible with his original background? He asked me to clarify what I was asking, so I said with Paul's previous persecution of the Church, why would Peter and the Others even give him the time of day if he was spouting heretical nonsense, especially since we know that Paul approached Peter on certain issues three times at least, plus there's the letters? The break was ending, so he said thanks for my opinion.

At the beginning of the third and final session, he started out by saying that he changed his mind and no longer believed Paul was some sort of outlier. I could have been knocked over with a feather when he said that.

True story, no embellishment.
WOW!!!!!!

you do have a way of messing with people's minds. :D

Really appreciate your imput
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Hi,

Some religion claim that God uses their leaders as a channel by which information is passed on from Him to these men/women (for instance JW's).

My question is, is that a scriptural teaching ?
I am aware that in the past God (Jehovah) used prophets to instruct people of his will and convey his thoughts, but does he still do that today, or on the other hand is (for Christians) Jesus Christ our only teacher ?

Your comments are appriciated.

"Why does 'God' need a starship?' - James T. Kirk
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
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Do you have a church/pastor?

what I meant about your journey... church history? How you came to receive Jesus as Lord?
King James Bible is the comforter sent to establish my belief in God the Father, Jesus His beloved Son that taught truth and the Holy Spirit of love of all life God has created; the God given right to life and freedom of speech to support it.
The King James Bible is written so that the symbolism in it can be correctly understood especially near the end of days as the seals are opened. No one in the past could understand what the word "Seraphim" means until one has been created. A Seraphim flies with TWAIN, DAS= Distributed Apperature System and has 6 wings like a F-35 fighter jet. DAS covers the pilots face in the helmet. DAS is placed on the jet in the exact positions described in the Bible and in 2 units each=twain. Then the pilot flies with another fighter jet in TWAIN=2's as 2 jets are needed for accuracy to use DAS, the location technology in battle. The fighter jet sounds like thunder when breaking the sound barrier coming with a vapor cloud on it's wings. It is a column of fire in the night from the exhaust and smoke trail in the day. There are thousands of Seraphim but they never marry because fighter jets do not reproduce themselves and do not join with the enemy in battle to fight on their side as they remain faithful as virgins to stay obedient to their country and Military Commander, Lord of Hosts.
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
"Why does 'God' need a starship?' - James T. Kirk
We absolutely need to read the OT prophets to understand what happens in the final war on Earth, Nuclear WW3. As far as that war is concerned, It does not matter what religious belief a person has or even if they believe in a God because no religious belief, at this point in time, will prevent that final, End of Days, nuclear war from happening. Want to or not ALL people will be in that final WORLD Nuclear war caused by greed and belief in the father of the lie that God chose him to rule, Abraham the man Jesus called, the Devil. The Devil is the cause of religious war to support his beliefs causing destroyed DNA and death of all species of Life God created on this amazing planet.
Nuclear radiation does not stay on battlefields and melted corium has self sustaining fission, the eternal fire of Hell, that will create unstoppable radiation that expands and enters the jet stream raining unstoppable radiation on all water, all crops, all animals and all plants over ALL countries on Earth!
The only thing a person can do is save themselves by faith in Jesus and understanding what Jesus taught. He will return to Earth because he left this planet to go to another planet to prepare it for the chosen of our specie to continue living. No one on this planet will live because the air, water and food will become so contaminated with radiation it will kill a person to attempt to eat drink or breathe. Have faith that God knows what our needs are and in the House of God=the entire Universe, are many mansions, =planets that can sustain our biological needs like clean air, water and food. Be chosen to leave Earth with Jesus or die on a planet with an advanced ape specie that was smart enough to invent a nuclear missile but stupid enough to believe in a talking snake.
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
Hi,

Some religion claim that God uses their leaders as a channel by which information is passed on from Him to these men/women (for instance JW's).

My question is, is that a scriptural teaching ?
I am aware that in the past God (Jehovah) used prophets to instruct people of his will and convey his thoughts, but does he still do that today, or on the other hand is (for Christians) Jesus Christ our only teacher ?

Your comments are appriciated.

CNN is a channel. CNN bears the responsibility on identifying a true eyewitness to have his story broadcast. CNN also has a database and procedures that you are not authorized to make changes at will.

God's channel is firstly through the Jews. The Jews are responsible for identifying the chosen eyewitnesses (they called them the prophets) for their stories to be recorded down, then later proclaimed and/or preached. The Jews also secure the channel by defining a Canon for their books.

The US government can actually designate CNN for the broadcasting of government-related information. That's the way how God employed the Jews. The US can also switch to Fox News instead if CNN failed to do its job. God did the same by switching from Judaism to Christianity.

Once a channel is employed, the US government will broadcast information to all the states, not just Indiana or Texas but all the states of America. The US government with its information is country-facing.

God did the same, that's why the gospel (i.e, a piece of news) shall be preached to all nations instead of only the middle east or India. God's information is human-facing with the explicit command that the gospel shall be preached to all nations on earth.
 
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Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
CNN is a channel. CNN bears the responsibility on identifying a true eyewitness to have his story broadcast. CNN also has a database and procedures that you are not authorized to make changes at will.

God's channel is firstly through the Jews. The Jews are responsible for identifying the chosen eyewitnesses (they called them the prophets) for their stories to be recorded down, then later proclaimed and/or preached. The Jews also secure the channel by defining a Canon for their books.

The US government can actually designate CNN for the broadcasting of government-related information. That's the way how God employed the Jews. The US can also switch to Fox News instead if CNN failed to do its job. God did the same by switching from Judaism to Christianity.

Once a channel is employed, the US government will broadcast information to all the states, not just Indiana or Texas but all the states of America. The US government with its information is country-facing.

God did the same, that's why the gospel (i.e, a piece of news) shall be preached to all nations instead of only the middle east or India. God's information is human-facing with the explicit command that the gospel shall be preached to all nations on earth.
Scriptures say Jews killed their prophets they did not agree with and so we lost a lot of information they offered. That is why the prophets that survived wrote in symbolism making it difficult to understand what information they were giving about the future. The amount of different Bible interpretations today is astonishing.
For example, it is claimed the Roman church is the harlot of Babylon because there are 7 hills around it. That is not true because ALL governments on Earth do not desire the Roman church. The Roman church does not make the merchants of the world rich. The harlot is not a religion because all countries on Earth do not desire the same religion. What the nations of the world desire that is made from waste is a thermonuclear missile made from nuclear waste. She is the expensive harlot they want to buy and use in the bloody bed of battle. A hill is symbol for a military in the Bible and she sits in the military compounds of 7 nuclear armed nations that will fight in WW3.
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
Scriptures say Jews killed their prophets

It's true, but the prophets' testimonies are also left behind by the Jews, no?

It is so because all the time the Jews didn't live very well with God. However, God had His job done through them anyway. If I recall correctly God even threatened to switch channels, to use a larger ethnicity as His witnesses instead of the Jews.
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
It's true, but the prophets' testimonies are also left behind by the Jews, no?

It is so because all the time the Jews didn't live very well with God. However, God had His job done through them anyway. If I recall correctly God even threatened to switch channels, to use a larger ethnicity as His witnesses instead of the Jews.
The information was given to Jews in an attempt to prevent the war they disclose that involves the beliefs of the Jews. If they do not change their beliefs, this last and unwinnable by any nation world war will happen. They never changed so the final war, nuclear WW3 is at our doorstep.

If the war in Ukraine lasts 5 months then stops, we are closer to that world war than most people believe. Ukraine is one of the ribs in the Russian Bears mouth Putin thinks he needs to protect the heart of Russia. Putin wants Ukraine's resources, minerals etc to ensure Russia's financial future.
 
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