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What is the trinity

We Never Know

No Slack
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

Was jesus god?
Was god jesus?
Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?
Was god his own son?
Is the spirit god and jesus or are god and jesus the spirit?
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

Was Jesus god?
Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?
Was god his own son?
Is the spirit god and Jesus or is god and jesus the spirit?
You answered most of your own questions in the beginning paragraph.
Jesus IS God.
He always existed.
Jesus is God's son, but also human because God caused a human woman to give birth to him.
Your last sentence doesn't really make sense to me... All three of them are God.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You answered most of your own questions in the beginning paragraph.
Jesus IS God.
He always existed.
Jesus is God's son, but also human because God caused a human woman to give birth to him.
Your last sentence doesn't really make sense to me... All three of them are God.

So its was god who was persicuted, not jesus?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person.
If God is a single being, he can’t be 3 separate distinct persons. That is grammatically incorrect. Perhaps you can restate what you mean in a way that makes sense.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
You answered most of your own questions in the beginning paragraph.
Jesus IS God.
He always existed.
Jesus is God's son, but also human because God caused a human woman to give birth to him.
Your last sentence doesn't really make sense to me... All three of them are God.
What do you think of Christians who disagree with you?
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons
If God is a single being, he can’t be 3 separate persons; that is grammatically incorrect. Perhaps you can restate it in a way that makes sense.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If God is a single being, he can’t be 3 separate distinct persons. That is grammatically incorrect. Perhaps you can restate what you mean in a way that makes sense.

"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

"One god, three persons."

What Is the Doctrine of the Trinity?
 
There are two different ones

God the father Jesus and the holy spirit are one known as the Trinity

The LDS has a God head which they call the trinity - 3 gods Jesus God The Father and the holy spirit all with the same will. They can't be one like the other description because in the LDS faith God the Father has a body of flesh and bone of his own.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

Was jesus god?
Was god jesus?
Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?
Was god his own son?
Is the spirit god and jesus or are god and jesus the spirit?

Jesus origin is in His Father and Jesus was/is the Son of God with the same essential nature as His Father, God nature.
I don't think it can be said that God is Jesus, because God is more than just Jesus, the Son.
The Spirit and Son have existed from eternity with and in the Father as one God.
God was not His own Son.
The Father and Son are in the Spirit and the Spirit is in the Father and Son.
It is easy to see the distinctness of the 3 but harder to see the oneness of the 3.
God is "one" like a rope is "one" even though it is distinct fibres.
 

mangalavara

सो ऽहम्
Premium Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

This is a good definition that represents the orthodox (lowercase o) and Western understanding of the Trinity. Basically, there is one divine being called God, and three distinct persons who are that one and undivided God. A similar definition that represents the Eastern understanding of the Trinity would be this: There is one God, the Father, who beget a Son and breathed out a Spirit, and the Son and the Spirit share the same undivided, divine essence as the Father. Like in the Western understanding of the Trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons in the Eastern understanding.

Was jesus god?

From a Trinitarian perspective, the person of Jesus of Nazareth is the same person in the Trinity who is known as the Son. Considering that the Son is God in the sense that his essence is the same as God the Father, it is correct to say Jesus was God (yet also human).

Was god jesus?

If by God you mean the Father, then no. Considering that the Father and the Son are two distinct persons, the Father was not Jesus.

Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?

I'm not sure what is meant here by spirit.

Was god his own son?

No. God the Father cannot be his own Son, 'personhoodwise.'

Is the spirit god and jesus or are god and jesus the spirit?

Again, I'm not sure what it meant here by spirit.

If God is a single being, he can’t be 3 separate distinct persons. That is grammatically incorrect.

No, it would be nonsensical to say God is a single being and three distinct beings, or a single person and three distinct persons.
 

cataway

Well-Known Member
just as i expected, trinity believers can't agree what the trinity is
 
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Brian2

Veteran Member
if ya believe in the Trinity you will believe in almost any thing

Not true, we do not believe what the JWs say about the following verses.
If you believed the following verses you would believe Jesus was not created.
John 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
If you believed the following verses you would not believe that the Spirit is a dead force.
2Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
1Cor 2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Romans 8:27 And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

"One god, three persons."

What Is the Doctrine of the Trinity?
If I said I were one man, but 3 distinct persons, you would (rightfully) say I am not making sense; because a man IS a person. If God is a person, he can't be a single God yet 3 separate persons; that makes no sense.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
No, it would be nonsensical to say God is a single being and three distinct beings, or a single person and three distinct persons.
Person = Being. To say a single being and three distinct beings is the same as saying single Being (God) yet three distinct persons.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If I said I were one man, but 3 distinct persons, you would (rightfully) say I am not making sense; because a man IS a person. If God is a person, he can't be a single God yet 3 separate persons; that makes no sense.

Just because.. A man can be a woman or a woman can be man. Or they can be both...3 people.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
"The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God."

Was jesus god?
Was god jesus?
Was Jesus the spirit which existed before he did or was he a new spirit?
Was god his own son?
Is the spirit god and jesus or are god and jesus the spirit?

“The Bible presents a God who did not need to create any beings to experience love, communion and fellowship. This God is complete in Himself, being three Persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, separate and distinct, yet at the same time eternally one God. They loved and communed and fellowshiped with each other and took counsel together before the universe, angels or man were brought into existence. Isaiah "heard the voice of the Lord [in eternity past] saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" (Isa:6:8). Moses revealed the same counseling together of the Godhead: "And God said, Let us make man in ourimage, after our likeness"; and again, "Let us go down, and there confound their language" (Gen:1:26;11:7). Who is this "us" if God is a single entity? Why does God say, "The man is become as one of us" (Gen:3:22)?”
The Trinity
 
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cataway

Well-Known Member
Not true, we do not believe what the JWs say about the following verses.
If you believed the following verses you would believe Jesus was not created.
John 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
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Col 1:15-17
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things, and by means of him all other things were made to exist,

proverbs 8 :22,23 &30
22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,
The earliest of his achievements of long ago.
23 From ancient times I was installed,
From the start, from times earlier than the earth.



30 Then I was beside him as a master worker.
I was the one he was especially fond of day by day;
I rejoiced before him all the time;
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Trinity is what the Bible calls, the Godhead:
2capitalized
a: GOD sense 1
b: the nature of God especially as existing in three persons —used with the

Definition of GODHEAD
It's interesting for me to reflect that in Hinduism we also have a trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva - creator, preserver and transformer/destroyer

It's also true that the heart beat has three phases: Every single beat of the heart involves three major stages: cardiac diastole, when chambers are relaxed and filling passively; atrial systole when the atria contract leading to ventricular filling; and ventricular systole when blood is ejected into both the pulmonary artery and aorta

An analogy can be constructed with one heart having three phases and One divinity having three aspects.

For me that is sufficient to not have an issue with a Christian or Hindu trinity being in reality One.
 
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