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Corrupt & Poorly Trained Cops Cost Taxpayers Money

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This encounter shows how cops don't know the laws they're
supposed to enforce, & they'll invent laws ad hoc. One of
them is fired for false arrest & incompetence. Another is
promoted. Go figure.
The lawsuit against the cops & department is ongoing.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Is there a brief summary of this? Can't really sit through a video right now.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Is there a brief summary of this? Can't really sit through a video right now.
Cop is called to a property regarding harassing phone calls.
Property is big...a group of families live on "family land".
Cop hears 2 residents target shooting.
She pulls her gun on them, & arrests them.
More cops arrive.
They invent some laws, one of which: illegal to shoot at nite.
The 2 guys spend the nite in jail.
Charges are bogus...all are dismissed.
One cop is fired for this.
Another is promoted.
The 2 guys are suing cops & government.
One won't settle...he wants a trial.

This video is useful for anyone with the interest & time.
It provides legal info regarding the encounter. Such
videos are actually quite a basic legal education about
civil rights.
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Cop is called to a property regarding harassing phone calls.
Property is big...a group of families live on "family land".
Cop hears 2 residents target shooting.
She pulls her gun on them, & arrests them.
More cops arrive.
They invent some laws, one of which: illegal to shoot at nite.
The 2 guys spend the nite in jail.
Charges are bogus...all are dismissed.
One cop is fired for this.
Another is promoted.
The 2 guys are suing cops & government.
One won't settle...he wants a trial.

This video is useful for anyone with the interest & time.
It provides legal info regarding the encounter. Such
videos are actually quite a basic legal education about
civil rights.

So, they're making up their own laws, huh? That's a flagrant abuse of power worthy of greater punishment than just being fired. And certainly, no one should be promoted for this.

I've never heard of any law to not be allowed to shoot at night. There are laws here against unlawfully discharging a firearm within city limits - unless you're at an established shooting range or practice area. As long as conditions are safe and no chance of hitting any bystanders, I can't see how it would be illegal.

Did they investigate the complaint about the harassing phone calls? I find it interesting that cops always look for excuses to mess with people, even if they're at a scene for a completely different and unrelated cause.

I remember a case where a citizen called the police and was actually able to help foil an armed robbery. He was a hero, but somewhere along the line, a cop smelled pot on his breath and found him in possession of marijuana. He arrested him.

Cops are just the bitter end. It's why a lot of people may not report crimes or want to get involved, since they might have some illegal substance on them - and they don't want to get caught.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So, they're making up their own laws, huh? That's a flagrant abuse of power worthy of greater punishment than just being fired. And certainly, no one should be promoted for this.

I've never heard of any law to not be allowed to shoot at night. There are laws here against unlawfully discharging a firearm within city limits - unless you're at an established shooting range or practice area. As long as conditions are safe and no chance of hitting any bystanders, I can't see how it would be illegal.
The video covered applicable law. The shooting took
place too early in the evening for disturbing the peace
to be a problem. And they met the acreage requirement
for shooting.
Did they investigate the complaint about the harassing phone calls? I find it interesting that cops always look for excuses to mess with people, even if they're at a scene for a completely different and unrelated cause.

I remember a case where a citizen called the police and was actually able to help foil an armed robbery. He was a hero, but somewhere along the line, a cop smelled pot on his breath and found him in possession of marijuana. He arrested him.

Cops are just the bitter end. It's why a lot of people may not report crimes or want to get involved, since they might have some illegal substance on them - and they don't want to get caught.
Cops often arrest the victim instead of the perp.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
One cop is fired for this.
Another is promoted.

I get why a cop would be fired for arresting people for no reason, but I don't get why one would be promoted. What did he or she do to deserve a promotion? Was it a ''remove you from the street'' kind of promotion?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cop reports his chief for faking his time card.
(Chief works a 2nd job at the same time.)
Guess which one gets fired?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the news....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/police-misconduct-repeated-settlements/?utm_campaign=wp_must_reads&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_mustreads&carta-url=https://s2.washingtonpost.com/car-ln-tr/364b293/622ca52e9d2fda34e7cc19ce/5973712cade4e21a848ecca7/18/95/622ca52e9d2fda34e7cc19ce
Excerpted (cuz of paywall)....
The hidden billion-dollar cost of repeated
police misconduct

More than $1.5 billion has been spent to settle claims of
police misconduct involving thousands of officers repeatedly
accused of wrongdoing. Taxpayers are often in the dark.

The above figure was for a decade, & covered only costs
due to repeat offenders. The total (including non-repeat
offending cops) was $3.2 billion.

A video covers the same topic (no paywall)...

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops often arrest people for made up crimes.
In this case a man was walking in a road instead
of the sidewalk. But there was no sidewalk, in
which case walking in the road is legal.
The cop also said he failed to identify himself, but
this was after identifying himself. The cop also
turned off his body cam.
How do cops get away with this? Because most
of the time, prosecutors won't charge them, &
departments won't turn on their own. Fighting the
charges is expensive because civilians must pay
exorbitant fees for copies of video footage & reports.
Bad arrests mean revenue for corrupt cops.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
This guy traveled to Ironton, OH to deal with an extremely corrupt police dept. He's been there the last couple days weeding them out, getting witness statements, etc. He's been livestreaming his investigation daily for hours on end. Pretty interesting. I'm sure he'll go live again today at some point.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In Wildwood NJ, they even hire college
students to work summer jobs as cops.

In this case, the cops cost the city $325,000
for their ignorance of the law, & excessive
force used on a small gal who committed
no crime. Untrained youths with the power
to arrest & kill civilians?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
In Wildwood NJ, they even hire college
students to work summer jobs as cops.

In this case, the cops cost the city $325,000
for their ignorance of the law, & excessive
force used on a small gal who committed
no crime. Untrained youths with the power
to arrest & kill civilians?

A few comments on this video:

- The legal drinking age should be 18, not 21.
- The cops always say they don't have enough personnel to do their job effectively, yet they have cops wandering around looking for petty violations - because they obviously don't have enough to do.
- I couldn't tell what the breathalyzer reading was, but if it showed that she hadn't been drinking, then that should have been the end of it.
- She should have informed herself of the rules of the beach. At the very least, hide stuff like that with a towel or something. Keep it out of sight to avoid these kinds of things. Sometimes it's best to just blend into the background, play it cool, and not do anything to stand out from the crowd.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Man answers suspicious knock on his door.
Armed cops, ready to shoot, stand out of view,
& don't announce that they're cops.
Man answers door holding a handgun.
One cop fires at him.
Fortunately, he isn't harmed.
But they arrest him despite his committing no crime.

My advice:
To all: If you suspect danger, don't open your door.
To cops: Get some proper training, learn the law,
learn to de-escalate, & try to serve the public.
 
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