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Misinformation and the Father of All Lies

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
what would you think of someone; especially a friend, who lied to you constantly? manipulated the friendship for personal gain?



Rand Paul seen on video telling students "misinformation works" and "is a great tactic"


you never know, oh, you never know. up high in the middle of nowhere. take a chance, you never know.- take a chance, take a chance, you never know. - lp tightrope

A representative for Paul replied to a request for comment from Insider via e-mail, saying: "Anyone who watches the video can clearly see that Dr. Paul was making a light-hearted joke addressing the very real stresses of medical school."
An old video has surfaced of Sen. Rand Paul telling students that spreading misinformation is a 'great tactic'


Do you have a better example?

So back to the question. Personal awareness is key. Folks make claims, most of the time you are not going to know if it is a lie or not. I see it as my responsibility to not accept claims at face value from anyone.
They could be true or not. One should take into consideration their own personal bias wrt to any information received no matter how commonly accept it may be.

Friends who constantly lie, wouldn't be my friend though even I make the obvious lie with friend for the sake of humor. In case they don't get it, then I'll explain I was just kidding.
Sure lot of strangers lie to you for personal gain. Be aware of this and act only after you take the responsibility to verify.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
A representative for Paul replied to a request for comment from Insider via e-mail, saying: "Anyone who watches the video can clearly see that Dr. Paul was making a light-hearted joke addressing the very real stresses of medical school."
An old video has surfaced of Sen. Rand Paul telling students that spreading misinformation is a 'great tactic'


Do you have a better example?

So back to the question. Personal awareness is key. Folks make claims, most of the time you are not going to know if it is a lie or not. I see it as my responsibility to not accept claims at face value from anyone.
They could be true or not. One should take into consideration their own personal bias wrt to any information received no matter how commonly accept it may be.

Friends who constantly lie, wouldn't be my friend though even I make the obvious lie with friend for the sake of humor. In case they don't get it, then I'll explain I was just kidding.
Sure lot of strangers lie to you for personal gain. Be aware of this and act only after you take the responsibility to verify.

Speaking of Paul do you think his story
about snake- bite is true?
How might one verify, as in, asses the
credibility of the story?

Every detail, like " was it raining hard?"
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Speaking of Paul do you think his story
about snake- bite is true?
How might one verify, as in, asses the
credibility of the story?

Every detail, like " was it raining hard?"

I assume you are talking about the apostle.
I know several people who embellish their stories to make the story more interesting. Adding inane details make the narrative more immersive for the listener.

Whether it was raining or not as harmful as some misinformation can be.

I tend to be neutral about information I can't verify.

A lot of folks believe being faithful gains them super powers like venom immunity though based on a claim because of that story. Misinformation in the Bible leading to the death of a few folks.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
what would you think of someone; especially a friend, who lied to you constantly? manipulated the friendship for personal gain?
I wouldn't consider this person a friend.
A representative for Paul replied to a request for comment from Insider via e-mail, saying: "Anyone who watches the video can clearly see that Dr. Paul was making a light-hearted joke addressing the very real stresses of medical school."
An old video has surfaced of Sen. Rand Paul telling students that spreading misinformation is a 'great tactic'
So? It was still irresponsible and reckless. Misinformation has no place in medicine, not even as a joke. Intentionally lying to patients or fellow clinicians, about anything, is unacceptable and unforgivable in such a field where informed consent, privacy, and ethics are mandated.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I wouldn't consider this person a friend.

So? It was still irresponsible and reckless. Misinformation has no place in medicine, not even as a joke. Intentionally lying to patients or fellow clinicians, about anything, is unacceptable and unforgivable in such a field where informed consent, privacy, and ethics are mandated.

Probably should have implied he was joking for the slow folks in the crowd.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
No, he should've been more responsible. It's long past due that America learns and accepts words have power and consequences.

Bill Maher was just complaining about democrats sucking all of the fun out of everything.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Bill Maher was just complaining about democrats sucking all of the fun out of everything.
Healthcare is, inherently, a very serious thing. It's not sucking the fun out of everything, it's expecting higher standards of those who carry with them a tremendous responsibility and accountability towards others.
Misinformation, even as a joke, has no room or place in healthcare. It's literally someone else's life on the line.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Healthcare is, inherently, a very serious thing. It's not sucking the fun out of everything, it's expecting higher standards of those who carry with them a tremendous responsibility and accountability towards others.
Misinformation, even as a joke, has no room or place in healthcare. It's literally someone else's life on the line.

Seems Bill Maher was right.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Seems Bill Maher was right.
Taking healthcare seriously and expecting providers to uphold high standards isn't sucking the fun out of everything.
Amd when Bill says that he's ranting about victimless PC nonsense, like how SJWs get worked up over Halloween costumes.
Misinformation does not belong in healthcare.
And, of course Rand's people would downplay it. Suggesting the spread of misinformation in healthcare should be criminal. It is literally other people's lives and wellbeing on the line.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Taking healthcare seriously and expecting providers to uphold high standards isn't sucking the fun out of everything.
Amd when Bill says that he's ranting about victimless PC nonsense, like how SJWs get worked up over Halloween costumes.
Misinformation does not belong in healthcare.
And, of course Rand's people would downplay it. Suggesting the spread of misinformation in healthcare should be criminal. It is literally other people's lives and wellbeing on the line.

Where did Rand Paul suggest spreading misinformation in the healthcare system?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I assume you are talking about the apostle.
I know several people who embellish their stories to make the story more interesting. Adding inane details make the narrative more immersive for the listener.

Whether it was raining or not as harmful as some misinformation can be.

I tend to be neutral about information I can't verify.

A lot of folks believe being faithful gains them super powers like venom immunity though based on a claim because of that story. Misinformation in the Bible leading to the death of a few folks.

The whole story is bogus.
Far beyond mere embellishment.
The thing about rain is very peripheral.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Is that an example of misinformation or diversion? :D

I think lying is always wrong. But good thing about constant liar is that you can always trust that it is not true. It would be really good, if all children would learn quickly to recognize liars and manipulation.
Excepting nobody lies constantly.

"Always wrong" is utterly absurd
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
The whole story is bogus.
Far beyond mere embellishment.
The thing about rain is very peripheral.

Fair enough. It is on us to make use of our common sense wrt whatever information we receive.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Fair enough. It is on us to make use of our common sense wrt whatever information we receive.

Im not s 100 % fan of common sense.
Its a good companion to analysis tho.

Its analysis shows the snake story is
essentially impossible. Wildly improbable.
No vipers on the island is one prob tho
one Believer told e it couldda been a sea snake.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Im not s 100 % fan of common sense.
Its a good companion to analysis tho.

Its analysis shows the snake story is
essentially impossible. Wildly improbable.
No vipers on the island is one prob tho
one Believer told e it couldda been a sea snake.

Obviously misinformation and our susceptibility to it has be around for a long time.
 
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