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Is atheists and agnotics pagan?

It Aint Necessarily So

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Are atheists and agnostics pagan?

I hope you don't mind my modifying your spelling and grammar.

The word is used in a few ways. This agnostic atheist has no gods and does not worship, but I do feel a connection with the earth and the other life on it. For some, just being outside of an Abrahamic religion gets that word. For others, there needs to be some kind of religion involved, just not monotheism. So, I'd be called pagan by that first group, but not by the second.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
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I've met atheist and agnostic Pagans, but I don't think atheism is Pagan in itself. Agnosticism might, or might not be, depending on the person with the beliefs.
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Is atheists and agnotics pegan?
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Meandflower Merry Christmas... If you are NOT in the Family of God you are Pagan!
LOOK..
Matthew 18:17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

They are IN the Family until they reject the beliefs of Christians! IF....

Meandflower
if outside of the Family of God you CANNOT be INSIDE at the same time!
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The word "pagan" was first used around the 4th century CE, by Christians in Rome, to describe people who didn't adhere to their new religion but rather were polytheists -- as the vast majority of the Roman World were, in the first centuries of our era.

As an atheist, therefore -- someone who doesn't believe in or worship any deity at all -- you cannot call me a pagan. I'm not a polytheist, I'm a non-theist. I rather suspect, although the reasoning might vary a tad, the same can be said of agnostics.
 

mangalavara

सो ऽहम्
Premium Member
Is atheists and agnotics pegan?

I think agnosticism is a 'new religious movement' that originated in England or Wales in the 1970s. Atheism, on the other hand, is a new religious movement that originated in the same decade but in the US. To this day, nobody can find evidence that one was based on the other. :tongueout:
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
The word "pagan" was first used around the 4th century CE, by Christians in Rome, to describe people who didn't adhere to their new religion but rather were polytheists -- as the vast majority of the Roman World were, in the first centuries of our era.

As an atheist, therefore -- someone who doesn't believe in or worship any deity at all -- you cannot call me a pagan. I'm not a polytheist, I'm a non-theist. I rather suspect, although the reasoning might vary a tad, the same can be said of agnostics.
Dictionary.... PAGAN
a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
"a Muslim majority had to live in close proximity to large communities of Christians and pagans
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noun
(no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
Disparaging and Offensive.
  1. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim;>>>>> a heathen.
  2. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
  3. an uncivilized or unenlightened person.
noun
hedonistic a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

irreligious
adjective
not religious; not practicing a religion and feeling no religious impulses or emotions.
showing or characterized by a lack of religion.
showing indifference or hostility to religion: irreligious statements.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Dictionary.... PAGAN
a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
"a Muslim majority had to live in close proximity to large communities of Christians and pagans
"

noun
(no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
Disparaging and Offensive.
  1. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim;>>>>> a heathen.
  2. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
  3. an uncivilized or unenlightened person.
noun
hedonistic a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

irreligious
adjective
not religious; not practicing a religion and feeling no religious impulses or emotions.
showing or characterized by a lack of religion.
showing indifference or hostility to religion: irreligious statements.
Are you trying to tell me that I must abide only by definitions you adhere to? I did point out that when the word "pagan" was first used, it had the meaning that I gave. You don't like that meaning? Go back to the 4th century CE and tell them to change it. (You'll have to brush up on your Latin to do so.)
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Evangelicalhumanist In you post #12 you said... "you cannot call me a pagan".
I reply: I can call you pagan, in todays definition you are Pagan
Dictionary.... PAGAN
a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
"a Muslim majority had to live in close proximity to large communities of Christians and pagans
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  1. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim;>>>>> a heathen.
Evangelicalhumanist ..... A Heathen is rated as Pagan!

I did not make the dictionary I just posted it!
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
Are you trying to tell me that I must abide only by definitions you adhere to? I did point out that when the word "pagan" was first used, it had the meaning that I gave. You don't like that meaning? Go back to the 4th century CE and tell them to change it. (You'll have to brush up on your Latin to do so.)
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Evangelicalhumanist I must add... Atheism is a form of religion.. You have "Faith" there is no God! You "Believe" there isn't a god!
Christians "Believe" there is in deed a God!
Christians also have "Faith"!

Evangelicalhumanist You cannot prove there isn't a god! All you have to go on is your belief! DON'T.....

Evangelicalhumanist
don't say "There is no god because I can't see him"! Scriptures are clear "God is spirit"!
 
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