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How many can say...

Lain

Well-Known Member
Which one(s) can't you do?

All of them. If I had political position, quality, lifestyle, belief, etc, which helped define me I wouldn't take it very loving for someone to say "I don't care." When I love someone I care about all of that and more, so I am unable to say "I don't care" concerning these things.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I don't care if you are gay or straight.

I don't care if someone is a homosexual or straight. I support LGBT rights, and my support for these rights was one of the major contentions between myself and other conservatives when I was still a conservative.

I don't care if you are left or right.

I honestly can't say that, because there's too much water under the bridge where conservatives are concerned.

I don't care if you have faith or not.

I can only say that if Christians don't try to coerce me, shame me, and use fear tactics in an attempt to convince me to have faith in God, and become a Christian again. As long as Christians live and let live, I won't have a problem with them.

I don't care if you love or hate Trump.

If a person loves Trump, then there's an immediate red flag for me, and I most certainly do care.

I don't care if you are vaccinated or not.

I do care whether a person is vaccinated or not, but I don't push the issue. I think a person has the right to choose whether they want to be vaccinated for COVID-19 or not. Honestly, I do limit my exposure to unvaccinated people, but I never make an attempt to coerce them into getting vaccinated, or try to shame them and make them feel guilty about not being vaccinated.

I don't care if you believe in a god or not.

My answer for this is exactly the same as it was for the "I don't care if you have faith or not" remark. Basically, I don't really care if someone else believes in God or not, as long as they don't try to shove their beliefs or lack of down my throat. Live and let live.

I don't care if you are a trans male or a trans female.

My answer for this is exactly the same as it was for the "I don't care if you are gay or straight" remark.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
So, he knowingly released a product he knew would be prone to error. Sort of like Ford's decision to release the Pinto anyways despite knowing of the increased risk of a fire from rear collisions.
Well that's one way of looking at it. I don't see how free will can be real if the only choice had been to obey him, though.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
So, he knowingly released a product he knew would be prone to error. Sort of like Ford's decision to release the Pinto anyways despite knowing of the increased risk of a fire from rear collisions.

Basically, yes. God knew beforehand that his creation would go down the toilet, and yet he went on with it. Not only that, but after he gets ticked off and destroys the world's population (except for Noah and his family) with a global flood, he starts it all up again.

You would think that he'd learn from his mistake after watching hundreds of years of mankind being thoroughly corrupted because he decided to curse all of humanity for Adam's sin. According to scripture, God is all knowing, all powerful, and ever present. IOW, humanity is merely a pawn in God's plan, as Satan was when he challenged God about Job. The poor devil never stood a chance.
 
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Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Kind of like an abusive boyfriend.

More like a sadistic bloodthirsty tyrant who takes personal pleasure in causing total chaos, and then sitting back to watch all hell break loose, and doing absolutely nothing to stop it. Just think about it... God allowed the Holocaust, which an estimated 6 million of his own "chosen people," the Jews, were put into concentration camps, and gassed to death by Hitler and the Nazis.

If the Bible is true, and accurate, God created Adam and Eve knowing full well that they would be tempted, and they would fall into sin before he created them. Furthermore, he knew beforehand that he would curse all of humanity for Adam's sin. God ultimately condemned unbelieving human beings to an eternal hell if they refuse to accept salvation and redemption through his son. He also knew before he created Adam and Eve that he would destroy all of humanity (except for Noah and his family) in a global flood.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Imagine a place with no goodness or beauty, no friends or pleasure of any kind. That's a glimpse of existence without God.

I've already imagined an existence without God, and I'm okay with it. However, I don't believe it is a place with no goodness or beauty, no friends or pleasure of any kind. "Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. No hell below us, above us only sky."

 
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