So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
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So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
Because Abraham didn't build it and never was anywhere near it, in my opinion at least.
So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
It may be, but we just not looked to see if that is so.
Stones are mentioned often in connection with faith.
Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I am the one who has laid as a foundation in Zion, a stone, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, of a sure foundation: ‘Whoever believes will not be in haste.’
Who is to say that the black stone was not left as a symbol to such verses?
As to Islam, could this be a hint?
1 Peter 2:8 And “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
In the Bible, Islam was to become the beast of Revelation, Muhammad and Ali being the Two Witnesses, Muhammad the First Woe.
So in the future, after we accept that we are one human race on one planet, we may look at these Scriptures in ways that we find these answers.
Regards Tony
Because these are all myths. Everyone likes to claim things for themselves, whether it be the English legend claiming Joseph of Arimathea visited Glastonbury, or the Russians claiming to have invented television.So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
Because these are all myths. Everyone likes to claim things for themselves, whether it be the English legend claiming Joseph of Arimathea visited Glastonbury, or the Russians claiming to have invented television.
The Old Testament accounts of Abraham (if such a person existed) are equally legendary, of course. It's a mistake to treat these ancient texts as literal accounts. They should be read like Homer.No argument from me on this,interesting though that Muslims prayed towards Jerusalem then changed towards Mecca.
The Old Testament accounts of Abraham (if such a person existed) are equally legendary, of course. It's a mistake to treat these ancient texts as literal accounts. They should be read like Homer.
So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
So Why isn’t the Kaaba mentioned in the other Abrahmics faiths,before Islam it had 360 idols with the head honcho Hubal but touted as the place Abraham and his son built,why would this not be important to the other Abrahmics faiths?.
In the Torah, Ishmael is important yet downplayed. The reality to me, is that a lot was changed in this regard. I don't believe God teaches slavery was ever alright and so don't buy the story that Ismail was born out of a slave/servant to Sarah and Abraham. I believe Ismail is the son of Sarah.
Thus, something significant was changed with him, and yet still we see twelve princes are promised to come from his offspring. Authority per Quran - the truth - is God is the true king and hence then his representatives rule on his behalf and have true authority.
Ismail twelve sons weren't princes or authorities, the ones to inherit the authority of Ismail, was Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, etc.
So there is a purpose to Ismail. And we read also that Moses prays for who God would relieve the knot on his tongue and says "the one who you will send". There is one who God will send that plays a huge role, that is other then the role Moses expected himself or his successor Aaron to play. However, God said he should look to Aaron and seek to manifest the truth and enlighten humans sooner then later and not wait. This means this is someone to come in the future.
With respect to Ismail, it's obviously one of the sent ones from his offspring.
So Quran fills the gap and shows that slavery, jealousy of Sarah, etc, has nothing to do with Ishmael and the covenant therein.
The purpose of the covenant with Ishmael thus has to do with the Kaba and Mohammad (s).
If you agree with me these are all ancient myths, why do you find it odd that different foundational myths, from different peoples, are not consistent with one another?At least Homer was interesting,the Kaabah which is surrounded by Muslims on their hajj do take it literally,I find this odd and why the other books don’t mention it,the life of the inquisitive unbeliever lol.
But it’s not referenced in the other books,for such an important place you would expect it to be.
If you agree with me these are all ancient myths, why do you find it odd that different foundational myths, from different peoples, are not consistent with one another?
Kaba is a place of ritual. It's rituals and understanding their purpose that makes it an important place. In itself, it's not that important place in God's religion. God sent Prophets and Messengers everywhere. So they all had rituals and holy places.
Prophets of which there were many were in the Middle East as we identify it,no prophet or messenger anywhere else.