You can not find God as a physical being

[Clara Tea]

Yeah... I know those kinds of "italian" chefs.
I bet he uses a cream based sauce as well to make a spaghetti carbonara.

Which is, btw, my go-to meal to judge a restaurant that dares to call itself "authentic italian".
If there's cream in it, they fail! And like a good little troll, I'll tell them as well!

Bunch of heretics, the lot of them!





Sorry, I fell in love with italian cuisine years ago and I'm one of those closed minded guys who thinks that one should not mess with classics


And the irony is, I love spaghetti bolognese. Yeah. I'm a hypocrit too.





Anyway..................................

Everyone go to Tagliatelli's house for spaghetti. Tucks in napkin.

 

[Clara Tea]

Perhaps.
Yet, say that x was a product of your imagination and that x had consciousness; would x consciousness not be limited being conscious of the imagination that x exists in…?

If so, x would be aware of itself and its surroundings (what you imagine) but not of you. And, in the event that x somehow did manage to become aware of you, x still would not have access to the physicality of you, because you are not in your imagination, which is the only place in which x exists.

“x” = Man, “you”= god

Self aware of being imaginary?

 

[Clara Tea]

I do not think God is a state of consciousness or a quality of myself. I think I can learn about God dimly from myself and other things. I think when one's heart is purified then they will see God, as the Lord Jesus said. Or even those in the way.

Perhaps seeing isn't believing, but one has to believe to see?

 

[Clara Tea]

So you do acknowledge God's existence...

Logical.

 

[Clara Tea]

I wouldn't go there to joke about people's experiences with God. But just saying lightly that the FSM is a silly comparison. My question is why can't atheist think outside the box?

I think that atheists are already there....waiting.

 

[viole]

I have no intention to "rate" your ego

Well, because you believe in an alternative God, I suppose.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Nimos]

With this i mean the God many seeking is not there to be found, the God I become familiar with arise from within the practitioner of a spiritual teaching.

So by seeking outward you will not find God, the quality of God is within you.
God is a state of consciousness. Only by realizing the God consciousness will you see God.

Only when you find God you will know yourself, only by knowing yourself will you know God.

Any thoughts?

But couldn't God take on physical form if he wanted to? The angels at least according to the bible and assume the Quran as well, can exist both in heaven and on Earth. Don't see why God couldn't do that?

Or are you saying that God is limited in this way?

 

[Lain]

Perhaps seeing isn't believing, but one has to believe to see?

Maybe, although this brings up a question to me of what the condemned will see at the Final Judgment? I'll have to read more to find out. I've always assumed they'll see God, which I think is correct, but how this interacts with belief and so on is going to be interesting to get a definite answer on.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Well, because you believe in an alternative God, I suppose.

Ciao

- viole

Alternative God? Not sure I understand what you mean?

My understanding of God comes through practicing Sufism

 

[viole]

Alternative God? Not sure I understand what you mean?

My understanding of God comes through practicing Sufism

ORightk, so you cannot believe in me. A Goddess. And that is why you cannot rate my ego. Right?

Ciao

-viole

 

[Spirit of Light]

But couldn't God take on physical form if he wanted to? The angels at least according to the bible and assume the Quran as well, can exist both in heaven and on Earth. Don't see why God couldn't do that?

Or are you saying that God is limited in this way?

My understanding is that the Prophets are the embodyment of God on earth.

 

[Koldo]

With this i mean the God many seeking is not there to be found, the God I become familiar with arise from within the practitioner of a spiritual teaching.

So by seeking outward you will not find God, the quality of God is within you.
God is a state of consciousness. Only by realizing the God consciousness will you see God.

Only when you find God you will know yourself, only by knowing yourself will you know God.

Any thoughts?

How do you figure if God is part of you rather than something else bigger than you?

 

[Spirit of Light]

ORightk, so you cannot believe in me. A Goddess. And that is why you cannot rate my ego. Right?

Ciao

-viole

If you had a spiritual teaching that to me meant I would realize God from within it could be possible, but since my choice was to follow sufism, then no. Because I could only follow one teaching at the time

 

[Spirit of Light]

How do you figure if God is part of you rather than something else bigger than you?

Well God will always be bigger than me it depend on how much awakening of God happens to each person.

 

[osgart]

How do you distinguish self from God then?

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Self aware of being imaginary?

Not necessarily. And probably not at all. Just aware and aware of self and of being aware of self. Like we are, you know…

 

[Nimos]

My understanding is that the Prophets are the embodyment of God on earth.

That didn't answer the question

Is God capable of doing it or not, should he want to? Because obviously assuming that he can't do it, clearly that limit the power of God. But if he is able to do it, what reason would we have to assume that he didn't? At least according to the bible, God walked in the garden of Eden:

Genesis 3:8
8 - And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

I don't know if that is the case in the Quran?

 

[Koldo]

Well God will always be bigger than me it depend on how much awakening of God happens to each person.

I mean, how do you figure if you are not merely finding yourself rather than God when you look inside?

 

[Spirit of Light]

How do you distinguish self from God then?

Leaving self or in other words letting the notion of self go. Self=ego and ego is not a part of God

 

[Spirit of Light]

That didn't answer the question

Is God capable of doing it or not, should he want to? Because obviously assuming that he can't do it, clearly that limit the power of God. But if he is able to do it, what reason would we have to assume that he didn't? At least according to the bible, God walked in the garden of Eden:

Genesis 3:8
8 - And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

I don't know if that is the case in the Quran?

My understanding of God is that God is higher form of consciousness, something prophets gain from their spiritual practicing. So embodiment means they have God within them and by that is the physical representation of God