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You can not find God as a physical being

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It is deeper than that, I do not have a way to describe it better at 5his current moment:)

You're going at it wrong (imo). Spirituality isn't a theology. It's highly experiential. Assuming people respect your experiences and think outside their box, you'd have to explain it (in interfaith) via what you experience.

If you want to tell someone about love it's great theology but just words. You'd have to show them or describe it in a way that shows. People relate to experiences.

This of course assumes you'd like to converse with people of all walks in life not limited to those who speak your language.

I noticed the pattern and I kinda think you're stuck. Just judging from your posts.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
There are DIR threads if atheist's views are not welcome.

A note of principal here, belief in the FSM automatically means you have belief in a god so cannot be in our atheism club. ;-)
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I wouldn't go there to joke about people's experiences with God. But just saying lightly that the FSM is a silly comparison. My question is why can't atheist think outside the box?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Atheists can't think outside the box! Really!!

Look, I could have used other parodies by The FSM is a well known one; obviously its use upsets you, as ou never put up arguments against it, just accuse me of being silly. But it is used to show how meaningless the initial post is and that by simply changing God to FSM, it proves the point.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
With this i mean the God many seeking is not there to be found, the God I become familiar with arise from within the practitioner of a spiritual teaching.

So by seeking outward you will not find God, the quality of God is within you.
God is a stste of consciousness. Only by realizing the God consciousness will you see God.

Only when you find God you will know yourself, only by knowing yourself will you know God.

Any thoughts?
How is "the quality of God is within you" functionally different from "God is imaginary"?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
How is "the quality of God is within you" functionally different from "God is imaginary"?
I can only speak for my personal belief on that. To me the energy experienced when practicing or the light felt from within is what to me, means God is there.
I will add, I am by no means saying a full experience of God is within me
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
With this i mean the God many seeking is not there to be found, the God I become familiar with arise from within the practitioner of a spiritual teaching.

So by seeking outward you will not find God, the quality of God is within you.
God is a stste of consciousness. Only by realizing the God consciousness will you see God.

Only when you find God you will know yourself, only by knowing yourself will you know God.

Any thoughts?

I'm unaware of any beings that aren't physical.
In fact, I don't even know what that is.

To me that sounds like a type of wood that doesn't come from a tree.
It makes little sense.

What you describe further, sounds to me like god only exists in people's heads. Aka, imagination.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm unaware of any beings that aren't physical.
In fact, I don't even know what that is.

To me that sounds like a type of wood that doesn't come from a tree.
It makes little sense.

What you describe further, sounds to me like god only exists in people's heads. Aka, imagination.
You are free to have your view of my belief:) i do not say others have to believe what I write about. I can only speak for my personal belief
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Atheists can't think outside the box! Really!!

Look, I could have used other parodies by The FSM is a well known one; obviously its use upsets you, as ou never put up arguments against it, just accuse me of being silly. But it is used to show how meaningless the initial post is and that by simply changing God to FSM, it proves the point.

They can't. When have you heard an atheist ask how do you define God...let's talk from your perspective?

If God is like an FSM it misses the point.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I wouldn't go there to joke about people's experiences with God. But just saying lightly that the FSM is a silly comparison. My question is why can't atheist think outside the box?

The way I see it, thinking outside the box is the atheist's specialty, if "the box" is conforming to majority opinion and cultural tradition / habbit.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
You are free to have your view of my belief:) i do not say others have to believe what I write about. I can only speak for my personal belief

Not so much sharing my view as it is questioning what you wrote.

How is "a being that is not physical" any different from "a type of wood that doesn't come from a tree"?

How is "what i feel inside" any different from "my imagination"?
 

The Crimson Universe

Active Member
With this i mean the God many seeking is not there to be found, the God I become familiar with arise from within the practitioner of a spiritual teaching.

So by seeking outward you will not find God, the quality of God is within you.
God is a stste of consciousness. Only by realizing the God consciousness will you see God.

Only when you find God you will know yourself, only by knowing yourself will you know God.

Any thoughts?

Its remarkable how similar our paths are.
In Advaita (non-dual hinduism) God is not a physical being who is to be found in the external world or in heaven. He is instead universal consciousness. And this consciousness is none other than our higher self that needs to be realized by seeking within.
Does Sufism also says that this consciousness is our higher self? :)
 
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