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Why do religious people beleive the author of the scripts but ?

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern times claims to be Gods messenger ?
 
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Lain

Well-Known Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeif when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?

For some it's because their religion says there are no new messengers. I personally don't instantly disbelieve it but examine the message, if it contradicts something previously revealed then I know it's false, but private revelations are not exactly rare and can be really popular and helpful in my religion (and I myself follow some of them from our own era).
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
For some it's because their religion says there are no new messengers.

Everyone knows humans wrote these scripts and books don't they ?

Sounds like some of these writers from history were certaintly tyrants and narcistic controlling in their writings .

One persons claim to be a messenger is equally has valid as another persons claim to be a messenger in any era .

No persons can provide proof of talking to God , hearing voices this day and age would get you commited to hospital .

How would these writers of the past cope in todays society ? I imagine they would be deeply mocked .
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Everyone knows humans wrote these scripts and books don't they ?

Sounds like some of these writers from history were certaintly tyrants and narcistic controlling in their writings .

One persons claim to be a messanger is equally has valid as another persons claim to be a messenger in any era .

No persons can provide proof of talking to God , hearing voices this day and age would get you commited to hospital .

How would these writers of the past cope in todays society ? I imagine they would be deeply mocked .

The majority of them were mocked in their own era and disbelieved or just murdered. I don't think it'd be that different now for them. I also think that not all claims are valid and that proof can be provided. Hopefully people are aware that it is usually humans who write.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?

Isn't the Pope, kind of sort of God's messenger?

I suspect it is mostly sub-conscious programming as to the "true message of God". Sometimes these later messengers messages click with that subconscious programing and sometimes they don't.

It's very difficult to consciously understand our subconscious motivations.
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
The majority of them were mocked in their own era and disbelieved or just murdered. I don't think it'd be that different now for them. I also think that not all claims are valid and that proof can be provided. Hopefully people are aware that it is usually humans who write.
No claim of written beleifs by any author could be validated , there would have to be more scientific reasoning involved .
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
Isn't the Pope, kind of sort of God's messenger?

I suspect it is mostly sub-conscious programming as to the "true message of God". Sometimes these later messengers messages click with that subconscious programing and sometimes they don't.

It's very difficult to consciously understand our subconscious motivations.
Well actually and unfortunately for the Pope , his own Neuroligcal Reference Frame has been deep programmed to repeat his belief . He is very sincere though in his beleif and has deep empathy . However , he is not really living his life . By this I mean he doesn't have chance to access his Neurological Diversity and live a normal life .
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Well actually and unfortunately for the Pope , his own Neuroligcal Reference Frame has been deep programmed to repeat his belief . He is very sincere though in his beleif and has deep empathy . However , he is not really living his life . By this I mean he doesn't have chance to access his Neurological Diversity and live a normal life .

What is a "normal" life? :shrug:
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?

To me the problem is if person claims to be Bible God’s messenger, but is in contradiction with Bible God. I can’t believe contradictory messenger.
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
To me the problem is if person claims to be Bible God’s messenger, but is in contradiction with Bible God. I can’t believe contradictory messenger.
The fact is that no religious books are messeges written from God but rather humanities written hopes of there is a God , with a written set of instructions that are meant to have virtue , in the name of God .

Any contradiction to the bible or any other religioius book is a righteous and valid challenge .

God said '' Let there be light''

I doubt that without atmosphere as sound requires a medium , does that imply God lives in an atmosphere ?

My point been religious books are well written and the intent is good but no books have the real virtue God would want as a set of defining rules .
 

Shadow11

Member
Isn't the Pope, kind of sort of God's messenger?

I suspect it is mostly sub-conscious programming as to the "true message of God". Sometimes these later messengers messages click with that subconscious programing and sometimes they don't.

It's very difficult to consciously understand our subconscious motivations.

He is the spiritual lead there are no prophets in the Catholic Church he can speak but only on faith and morals which really has never happened except once - now if you take a look at the LDS Church their Prophet is talking to God daily or so they use to claim in a conversation like you and me can have. Its the Church's that have new prophets who claim to speak for God that bring new stuff into it. There are many.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?
For most people, the fog of time is necessary for religious claims to be credible.

That saying "anyone who like sausage and respects democracy should never watch either one being made" also applies to religion.
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
Luckily for me that is fully involved, in my opinion at least.
Physics created the Heavens and Earth and thou shall not bare false testament to this , child of God .

Unluckily for you , your Neuroligcal Reference Frame is a Neuroligcal Stereotype and you need to open up your Neurological Security so God can access your mainframe of existence , allowing you free thought .
 

TheBrokenSoul

Active Member
For most people, the fog of time is necessary for religious claims to be credible.

That saying "anyone who like sausage and respects democracy should never watch either one being made" also applies to religion.
Time is a measure of history , unfortunately space-time is virtual .
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
In the religions from earlier, the messenger was not the one who wrote it down, it was followers who memorized the teaching who did the writing.
But if you do not believe in messages from a God, that is your choice of course. Others do believe in the teaching and follow as best they can.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?
A reasonable question. But I think it's being asked about an unreasonable phenomena; people. What people choose to believe is often not dependent upon reason, but upon their needs.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why do religious people believe the author of the scripts or books but then instantly disbeleive when somebody of modern tiimes claims to be Gods messenger ?
If they even know who the authors were.

It's irony pure and simple.

It's because nothing can be delivered at all in any way that makes it believable. Either by people then or people now.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To me the problem is if person claims to be Bible God’s messenger, but is in contradiction with Bible God. I can’t believe contradictory messenger.
But why do you believe in "Bible God?" Why were the Bible God prophets reliable, or more reliable than today's claimants?
 
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