Alec Baldwin Killed More People Than My Guns Have

[Wildswanderer]

Scenario: Someone breaks into your house when you aren't home and finds the pistol.

Or steals your car, or a knife, or anything else you own. I see no difference. That makes you the victim.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Pardon me if I don't see attempted murder because you can't control your dog as a legitimate use of firearms.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Or steals your car, or a knife, or anything else you own. I see no difference. That makes you the victim.

It was meant to take it to the same level of hypothetically complex as you did with me.

 

[Bodie]

As now agreed upon by many who were on the set, there was no need to keep any loaded guns there. The American movie industry decided as of a couple of days ago that no real guns, only plastic ones, should ever be on a movie set.

It was a simple yes or no question

 

[metis]

It was a simple yes or no question

No, as I don't see any direct connection between the two. Thus, my response to the OP was "generic".

Wait-- I also said I wasn't going to discuss this! Oh well.

 

[Bodie]

Scenario: Someone breaks into your house when you aren't home and finds the pistol.

What if someone steals your car and runs a kid over, we can "what if" all day.
For example:
What if someone breaks into your house, drinks your liquor and in a drunken state falls off a bridge and dies? Are you responsible?

 

[Bodie]

No, as I don't see any direct connection between the two.

You don't see any connection between basic firearms safety and the handling of firearms?
Your opinion of the NRA doesn't change simple, logical facts.

 

[metis]

You don't see any connection between basic firearms safety and the handling of firearms?
Your opinion of the NRA doesn't change simple, logical facts.

Have a nice day.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

What if someone steals your car and runs a kid over, we can "what if" all day.
For example:
What if someone breaks into your house, drinks your liquor and in a drunken state falls off a bridge and dies? Are you responsible?

There are, of course, reasonable precautions that can be taken for things we need or want and can manage safely.

I lock my car and my house. I lock my gun up unloaded.

These precautions help prevent bad things from occurring. Being responsible means taking reasonable precautions.

If I leave my car running in a parking lot unlocked and someone steals it, it is their responsibility ultimately, but I also made the mistake of leaving it running and unlocked.

If I leave a loaded gun next to my bed and someone takes it and does something horrible, they are responsible, but I could have done more to prevent it.

In weighing the risk of someone kicking down my door with an accomplice outside ready to attack me versus someone taking my gun (nefariously or otherwise) and doing something horrible with it, I choose to mitigate the risk with a reasonable precaution.

 

[Bodie]

Have a nice day.

I expected nothing less

 

[Revoltingest]

Shut my bedroom door, hit my car alarm to alert my neighbors, climb out my window, call 911.

Edit: I should note I keep my car key fob next to my bed for that reason.

I keep nothing next to me bed except for a radio.
It won't be useful for self defense, but in my neck
of the woods that's an ultra low probability scenario.

Mr Glock is in a rapid access safe in a nearby closet.
Good enuf for me. Not speaking for others, who'd
choose reasonable alternatives for their situation.

 

[Stevicus]

Trump Accuses Alec Baldwin of Purposely Shooting 'Rust' Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins (msn.com)

Former President Donald Trump said that actor Alec Baldwin might have purposely shot cinematographer Halyana Hutchins on the Rust movie set last month.

Trump said on Christ Stigall's radio show on Thursday, "In my opinion, he had something to do with it, but if nothing else, how do you take a gun, whether it's loaded or not loaded, how do you take a gun, point it at somebody that's not even in the movie, and just point it at this person and pull the trigger, and now she's dead."

Baldwin was on the set of his upcoming western movie Rust, which was being filmed near Santa Fe, New Mexico, when he was handed a prop gun that the police said discharged and fatally shot Hutchins and injured writer-director Joel Souza.


Trump criticized the way Baldwin handled the gun on set and suggested that the actor might have loaded it.

"Even if it was loaded, and, you know, that's a weird thing, maybe he loaded it," he said. "Who would put a gun, 'Here, Alec, here's your gun,' 'Oh, good,' lift it up, point it at a person, and pull the trigger, and, 'Oh, man, a bullet came out,' she's dead. So there's something wrong with him, he's a sick guy."

Later on during the show, Trump ranted about Baldwin, who he said doesn't know personally, and his behavior toward reporters, suggesting that "there's something wrong" with the actor.

"I've watched him for years. He gets into fistfights with reporters. I mean, everything he does, he's a volatile guy. He's a nutjob," Trump said.

The former president also spoke about the way he would have handled the situation differently if he was in Baldwin's shoes and was given a prop gun on set.

"If they handed me a gun, I would never point it at somebody and shoot it, you know. I don't care about checking the gun. They hand you a gun you're not going to point it at somebody," he said.

"This was really a cinematographer, so it's not even like an actress that's on set with you, this was a cinematographer, so that means he took the gun and pointed it at a cinematographer, pulled the trigger and she was dead," Trump added.

He also noted that with the open-air setting where the set was, he would have pointed the gun up in the air.

Trump also didn't like Baldwin's imitations of him on SNL.

Baldwin has been vocal about the former president and his statements which Trump said he doesn't like. The actor used to mock Trump on Saturday Night Live in multiple impressions of the former president.

"He did, I thought, a poor job of imitating me," Trump said on Thursday. "Alec Baldwin was terrible at imitating me and by the way, if I thought he was good and I didn't like his politics or I didn't like him, I would have said he was good but he was terrible. I don't actually know him, but I've watched him over the years because of the fact that he did this so much on Saturday Night Live."

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump Accuses Alec Baldwin of Purposely Shooting 'Rust' Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins (msn.com)

Given Baldwin's competence with firearms,
if he intended to shoot her, he'd have missed.