Alec Baldwin Killed More People Than My Guns Have

[lewisnotmiller]

Objective of car - hit and run assassination.

Objective of gun- kill that deer and eat venison.

Two can play that game as well.

Except that your example is disingenuous.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I didn't say you want somebody to get shot, I said you don't mind. And I know that because you didn't provide a suggestion to handle the problem and you disagree with any suggested solution. You simply don't care. I'm not even a citizen of the US and I don't plan to visit (much too dangerous) but I try to find solutions, I look up statistics to inform people about the size of the problem and all you do is playing negative Nancy.

Lol, the United States is not " dangerous" unless you choose to go into a few select parts of certain cities. Here in the real world there's still way more good people than bad.
And here we almost all have guns but hardly any gun homicide.
Yes there's a few people that get shot every year that ask for it. I don't get upset when a criminal breaking in is shot or a criminal attacking someone is shot.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Again that's about personal responsibility. It's not my responsibility as a responsible gun owner if someone else miss uses a gun. That's got nothing to do with our right to bear arms which is guaranteed in our constitution.

More than half suicide deaths are by firearms: NIMH » Suicide

Since most suicide attempts are impulsive, having a firearm available increases the risk of it being successful quite a bit.

 

[Wildswanderer]

That's why you run emergency drills. Firearm or not, running emergency drills is wise. Learn defense techniques that don't require a firearm whether you own one or not.

That's fine... but I can not punch out a bullet.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I have used a gun every fall and winter for at least 40 years. Let's see ... hunting, ( food) trapping, ( money), living real life.
Defense if necessary. I've seen a situation where I was glad I had one on when attacked by animal and potential attack by a person.

You could still use your gun for all of these uses if it were kept unloaded in a gun safe when not in use.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You could still use your gun for all of these uses if it were kept unloaded in a gun safe when not in use.

Sure. But when the dog wakes me in the middle of the night I can just grab my pistol and go shoot something if necessary so she will shut up. I looked at gun safes. Maybe if I hadn't lost all my guns in that boating accident I'd get one someday when I don't have bills to pay.

 

[Stevicus]

What do you think you're going to need a gun for?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Sure. But when the dog wakes me in the middle of the night I can just grab my pistol and go shoot something if necessary so she will shut up.

Pardon me if I don't see attempted murder because you can't control your dog as a legitimate use of firearms.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Again that's about personal responsibility. It's not my responsibility as a responsible gun owner if someone else miss uses a gun. That's got nothing to do with our right to bear arms which is guaranteed in our constitution.

If you're not keeping your guns secure, then you aren't a responsible gun owner.

That's fine... but I can not punch out a bullet.

Nor can you shoot one out of the air. Expecting that the gun is going to be a magic shield without preparing for the reality of a home invasion is going to be less effective than someone without a gun, but has drilled.

 

[We Never Know]

If you're not keeping your guns secure, then you aren't a responsible gun owner.



Nor can you shoot one out of the air. Expecting that the gun is going to be a magic shield without preparing for the reality of a home invasion is going to be less effective than someone without a gun, but has drilled.

Scenario...

Im in bed, someone kicks in my front or back door doing a home invasion, I grab my pistol thats by my bed,, I can protect my bedroom from anyone coming in.

You're in bed, someone kicks in your front or back door doing a home invasion, you are drilled... How do you protect your bedroom from anyone coming in?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Scenario...

Im in bed, someone kicks in my front or back door doing a home invasion, I grab my pistol thats by my bed,, I can protect my bedroom from anyone coming in.

You're in bed, someone kicks in your front or back door doing a home invasion, you are drilled... How do you protect your bedroom from anyone coming in?

Shut my bedroom door, hit my car alarm to alert my neighbors, climb out my window, call 911.

Edit: I should note I keep my car key fob next to my bed for that reason.

 

[We Never Know]

Shut my bedroom door, hit my car alarm to alert my neighbors, climb out my window, call 911.

The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes.

You could/would be killed and they would be gone before the police get there.

What Is The Average Police Response Time In The U.S. By City, State, Crime And More?.

 

[We Never Know]

Shut my bedroom door, hit my car alarm to alert my neighbors, climb out my window, call 911.

What about the look out guy outside?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

What about the look out guy outside?

What about him? Is he coming after me?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Pardon me if I don't see attempted murder because you can't control your dog as a legitimate use of firearms.

I never said anything about shooting a person.

 

[We Never Know]

What about him? Is he coming after me?

He's not there to look out for the weather. He's there to stop anyone that comes out.

 

[Wildswanderer]

If you're not keeping your guns secure, then you aren't a responsible gun owner.



Nor can you shoot one out of the air. Expecting that the gun is going to be a magic shield without preparing for the reality of a home invasion is going to be less effective than someone without a gun, but has drilled.

The dog will warn me long before they get in the house.
You know I had a friend who had an attempted break in into his basement. His son set on the steps and pumped a 12 gauge. They didn't stick around. Once someone knows you are armed they usually try to find an easier target to hit.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

He's not there to look out for the weather. He's there to stop anyone that comes out.

Then since he's likely distracted by the car alarm I just activated I break for the woods on my property that begin not ten feet from my window. Let's see him find me there!

 

[We Never Know]

Then since he's likely distracted by the car alarm I just activated I break for the woods on my property that begin not ten feet from my window. Let's see him find me there!

And if they cased the place, they know what window your bedroom is.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And if they cased the place, they know what window your bedroom is.

If they cased the place, they likely tripped one of my cameras. Regardless, they don't likely know the woods like I do.

Another scenario. My 5 year old neice wanders into my bedroom and finds the gun I keep stashed there in case a couple of guys have cased my house and one is able to kick my door in.