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I prefer the approach on Genesis 1 & 2. The material is a gift of God to us and for us to enjoy. We just shouldn't let the the material own us.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Different views, different approach
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nobody truly owns anything. You don't need to be a sufi to acknowledge something like that.
A visitor from where?
We Never Know
No Slack
I would say we all are just visitors on earth. We all have limited time here and the material objects we aquire while here, don't go with us when we leave.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
If we're visitors, where's our home?
We Never Know
No Slack
Do you have limited time here? If yes then we are just visiting here because we will eventually leave this world we know.
Where is home?? Who knows. I don't.
Edit...
"And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
Hotel Californa, The Eagles.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Check out but can never leave. Reincarnation?
We don't actually own our body. I can only remember running and competing at athletics. This body is changing faster than I care to mention. It's taking doctors and operations to keep me in this world. This miracle of life and it has been entertaining is running out of steam. I don't care about any material property actually just want to keep my loved ones alive, healthy and happy.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
True, all people may think like this.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Heaven.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
The thought behind the verse in the OP is to say, nothing in the dunya (the temporal world) is worth holding on to, the saying does not only belong in sufism, but can be implemented by anyone who see the world as a temporarily existence. The saying is a part of sufi teaching and will be repeated by those who practice within sufism.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
We already live inside the heavens.
When a theist says heavens as home they think clouds above us.
I know clouds are only clouds.
But our mind knows above us is only heavens. Without our water oxygenated life. Consciousness knows we die by lack of oxygen in our body.
So knowing is aware advice as we live.
If I knowingly say a higher place by meaning. Not on the ground. Without oxygen then consciously I spiritually know. When I am not a human.
To a spiritual human we own one more spirit after bodily death. As an eternal self who had sent the human out of its body.
Our answer is I did it to myself hence I am living a karmic dream until life released.
As virtually we entered into a chemical environment. Why we discuss what we became spiritually aware of.
Which is not any scientific advice. As human by experience is personal.
When a theist says heavens as home they think clouds above us.
I know clouds are only clouds.
But our mind knows above us is only heavens. Without our water oxygenated life. Consciousness knows we die by lack of oxygen in our body.
So knowing is aware advice as we live.
If I knowingly say a higher place by meaning. Not on the ground. Without oxygen then consciously I spiritually know. When I am not a human.
To a spiritual human we own one more spirit after bodily death. As an eternal self who had sent the human out of its body.
Our answer is I did it to myself hence I am living a karmic dream until life released.
As virtually we entered into a chemical environment. Why we discuss what we became spiritually aware of.
Which is not any scientific advice. As human by experience is personal.