Subduction Zone
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A new series has just been started by Aron Ra. Does anyone want to watch and discuss?
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Foundations of Genesis Apologetics
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A new series has just been started by Aron Ra. Does anyone want to watch and discuss?
rational experiences
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When slime and goo still exists it hasn't evolved.
Evolution is a body that personally changes all of its self owned identified markers into a new higher life form by addition of a greater status to the body ownership.
Said only by a human theist as just a theory.
A human consciously by observations states as the human I own dominion over all things.
Fish give birth to eggs.
So did dinosaurs.
O the cell for human life is already living as a whole human cell the exact same as a microbe as a cell body in water. Water is the basic one same state.
The human body owns the egg inside.
Within water oxygenated is any living cell body small or large. We own the exact same base support surrounding us all.
Unlike fish we cannot use waters oxygen.
The difference.
A human compares a fish life in water to a human life said their self. Humans first.... our life came out of the use water stated oxygen living as a human by observation only.
Comparing life in heavenly water to water mass life....fish life. Stating we are not the same living conditions.
The storyteller. A theist. Just a human.
Comparing is only ever applied by a human in evaluation of applying any comparison to their owned selves. The human.
A long time ago a human scientific teaching stated no man is God hence don't apply research to dead things or any past. As the human theist.
As you are self owned. Continue life human only by sex. Needs a healthy heavens to subsist.
As a human observation about human who was pretending they speak on behalf of a human Creator themed as a human theist scientist.
We were told science a human explanation is wrong. Basically we told ourselves humans own an ego problem.. ...
Arguing our own proof.
You actually always stated man as a creator theist in human life was always wrong.
In fact the topic is moot.
Was the ancient human understanding about human behaviour only being wrong. Because just humans are doing all the comparisons first.
If you state the obvious. I chose human research. I dig up dead bones. They seem human yet look different is exact advice.
Said by a not the dead bones natural human.
Evolution is a body that personally changes all of its self owned identified markers into a new higher life form by addition of a greater status to the body ownership.
Said only by a human theist as just a theory.
A human consciously by observations states as the human I own dominion over all things.
Fish give birth to eggs.
So did dinosaurs.
O the cell for human life is already living as a whole human cell the exact same as a microbe as a cell body in water. Water is the basic one same state.
The human body owns the egg inside.
Within water oxygenated is any living cell body small or large. We own the exact same base support surrounding us all.
Unlike fish we cannot use waters oxygen.
The difference.
A human compares a fish life in water to a human life said their self. Humans first.... our life came out of the use water stated oxygen living as a human by observation only.
Comparing life in heavenly water to water mass life....fish life. Stating we are not the same living conditions.
The storyteller. A theist. Just a human.
Comparing is only ever applied by a human in evaluation of applying any comparison to their owned selves. The human.
A long time ago a human scientific teaching stated no man is God hence don't apply research to dead things or any past. As the human theist.
As you are self owned. Continue life human only by sex. Needs a healthy heavens to subsist.
As a human observation about human who was pretending they speak on behalf of a human Creator themed as a human theist scientist.
We were told science a human explanation is wrong. Basically we told ourselves humans own an ego problem.. ...
Arguing our own proof.
You actually always stated man as a creator theist in human life was always wrong.
In fact the topic is moot.
Was the ancient human understanding about human behaviour only being wrong. Because just humans are doing all the comparisons first.
If you state the obvious. I chose human research. I dig up dead bones. They seem human yet look different is exact advice.
Said by a not the dead bones natural human.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Not watched it all but he is good, I've always liked him.
These people will go the way of the dinosaurs anyway, sooner or later, unless the freedoms expected by unsuppressed youth suddenly takes a dramatic wrong turn. If one wants to remain ignorant then it is their choice, given that all the information to become reasonably informed is readily available. But they will gradually cut themselves off from the majority if they do remain ignorant, in my view.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
He, Aron Ra, believes in truth. That is still a belief. There is a reason, how come we have methodological naturalism and nobody so far has shown that philosophical naturalism to be true.
Just as we have religious apologetics, we have naturalistic apologetics and then there is those of us, who just accept that there is no truth, proof, evidence and what not for what the world really is.
Cute dog at the end
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Just keep telling yourself that.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, here is a variant of there are different contradictory versions of God and that is not accepted. There are different contradictory versions of truth and thus there are people, who don't know truth, yet they are in the world.
So I figured out, that I don't need to know what truth is and thus I don't. I just believe in one less version than you.
See, you can learn a lot from applying atheistic arguments on other words than "God".
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
One should not assume that just because one does not know what is true or not that the search or what is true is fruitless. In other words don't assume that others do not know just because you do not know.Well, here is a variant of there are different contradictory versions of God and that is not accepted. There are different contradictory versions of truth and thus there are people, who don't know truth, yet they are in the world.
So I figured out, that I don't need to know what truth is and thus I don't. I just believe in one less version than you.
See, you can learn a lot from applying atheistic arguments on other words than "God".
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, the word fruitless is not science nor objective. So that is your opinion about what matters. Truth doesn't matter to me. I accept that it in your opinion it matters. Now if you claim evidence as per science et al, I will listen.
As for knowledge, life doesn't need it, because the earliest forms didn't have knowledge or indeed truth. If you remove humans, there would be no truth or knowledge. There was a time in the past time of the universe where there were no truth or knowledge.
They are as words abstracts, cognitive constructs or rules in the mind. They are no different than God. You can live without believing in them or believing they matter.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Aron ra researches things and his videos are backed up with science, not religion. It's not belief at all.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is your belief:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science#Current_approaches
I understand science as a set of beliefs, that seems to work. Hence methodological naturalism and not any philosophical versions.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not only "seem to work". Do we "seem to be communicating with each other"? Science is constantly tested. You really should study epistemology a bit.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
You're playing silly word games again. Science does work, even if you refuse to believe that the 'real world' is real, it might as well be (it's qualitatively different to everything else in our heads and it, and the way it works, are inescapable), and that is where science works.
Who cares?
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, and understand how come we have methodological naturalism and no truth, proof and don't use metaphysics. And how come we this: https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/whatisscience_12
Including "Science doesn't draw conclusions about supernatural explanations."
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
If you can show with science who cares as the scientific theory of caring, I will listen. If you stop caring, it goes away, so it is not in reality.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
No, it doesn't. You can demonstrate that easily enough.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Show me for all cases of what humans care about.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
What's that got to do with anything I said? Reality doesn't go away if you stop believing in it, or if you stop caring about it. Who cares and who doesn't couldn't be less relevant.
Added: sorry, perhaps you didn't recognise the idiom "who cares?".
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That would go away if you didn't actual thought like that. That is not a part of objective reality and not science. It is mental and a form of ethics and/or psychology. It is not my problem that you don't understand when you are subjective in some cases and you can deny that you are subjective, while you are subjective.
As a version of what we are playing: I make no personal evaluation or otherwise make mental considerations about what is important to me as me. That means that it is important to you, that you believe you are not subjective, but that is important, is subjective. You really have to learn to check what kind of referent a word has and if it is mental or not. Relevance is a mental world.