But which never seems to have been implemented, as man's centuries of violent conflict attest, particularly during the religious years of the middle ages and renaissance.
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How would Jesus want us to respond to terrorism?
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Actually, it was to an extent. For example, back hundreds of years ago wars in Europe usually consisted of soldiers lining up in open battlefields and fighting it out, thus sparing cities and towns. Even the American Civil War was largely fought this way [someone forgot to tell ShermanBut which never seems to have been implemented, as man's centuries of violent conflict attest, particularly during the religious years of the middle ages and renaissance.
] However, as time went on, ...
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Life is worth protecting, I cannot state that mroe strongly. If you do not rise up to protect, you enable evil. Terrorism must be fought, it must be fought with guns and intelligence, but (and here is where we have failed) it must also be fought with arguments. Many of these terrorists are nothing more than kids who have been taken in by bad arguments. The benefits of a modern democracy with freedom of religion, speech, etc., must be taugth, and taught well, or all the guns in the world are not going to succeed.
Fighting it is what generates it. When you kill a terrorist -- or a wedding party -- you generate more enemies among his friends and family. You're fighting an idea.
The most effective way to obliterate terrorism is to obliterate its cause. With no reason to fight, and no enemy to oppose, the terrorists are left with noöne to terrorize.
Maybe these 'benefits' should enjoy the same persuasion effort enjoyed by the home grown terrorists do on social media.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The easiest way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. If someone is physcially assualting you, you don't just sit there and let him beat on you.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe this reveals it: Mat. 21:43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”5
Muffled
Jesus in me
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
Pilot stated that he found no fault in Him. He wasn't the one who made the final decision. It was the crowd that had gathered.
Probably the same way he felt about the Zealots of his day. Those who tried to eject and expel the Romans from Judea. He was opposed to violence.
He never claimed to be in opposition to Rome. Even today people are accused of, and executed for crimes they didn’t commit.
The bible says he never claimed to oppose Rome. I believe otherwise
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The very claim of being the messiah was an act against Rome, since the Messiah is he who will rule Israel during the messianic era. IOW the claim of messiah says that Herod and Caesar will be replaced by the Messiah. It is a seditious claim.Ok.
He didn’t claim to be the Messiah.
He did teach one god which went against roman acceptance of all gods and discredited the emperor who was a god.
Such would be seen as treason, hence crucifixion, the form of death reserved for traitors and terrorists
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Be prepared to stop them. The God of the New Testament is the same God as the OT.
13 Therefore I stationed some of the people behind the lowest points of the wall at the exposed places, posting them by families, with their swords, spears and bows. 14 After I looked things over, I stood up and said to the nobles, the officials and the rest of the people, “Don’t be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your families, your sons and your daughters, your wives and your homes.”
15 When our enemies heard that we were aware of their plot and that God had frustrated it, we all returned to the wall, each to our own work.
16 From that day on, half of my men did the work, while the other half were equipped with spears, shields, bows and armor. The officers posted themselves behind all the people of Judah 17 who were building the wall. Those who carried materials did their work with one hand and held a weapon in the other, 18 and each of the builders wore his sword at his side as he worked. But the man who sounded the trumpet stayed with me.
19 Then I said to the nobles, the officials and the rest of the people, “The work is extensive and spread out, and we are widely separated from each other along the wall. 20 Wherever you hear the sound of the trumpet, join us there. Our God will fight for us!”
21 So we continued the work with half the men holding spears, from the first light of dawn till the stars came out. 22 At that time I also said to the people, “Have every man and his helper stay inside Jerusalem at night, so they can serve us as guards by night and as workers by day.” 23 Neither I nor my brothers nor my men nor the guards with me took off our clothes; each had his weapon, even when he went for water.
Keep reaching. Keep in mind however, that limb may break. The Romans knew of the Jews’ one God and their injunction to worship only him and tolerated it. Religion was not the issue, acceptance of the state was. And now having come full circle, Jesus never advocated against the Roman state.
No reaching involved, the pax romana was specific and zealously protected
Of course they knew the jews had one god and would accepted their god into their pantheon. The Jews would not accept that. Worship, fine, preaching and proselytizing, denying the emperors godhood, not a good idea.
Jesus publicly avocated against the emperor by teaching one god.
You are of course welcome to believe a book selectively compiled by committee 400 years after JCs death. Personally i belive Roman history of which there is evidence
Provide a quote. Provide a Roman source. There are none. The Romans mentioned nothing about Jesus. Ooh ooh, how ‘bout “Therefore render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and render unto God what is God’s” when asked about paying taxes to the state”? Care to spin that? Oh wait, that’s from the Bible. Why weren’t the Sanhedrin, Pharisees and other priests prosecuted by the Romans? Why weren’t the synagogues raided and closed down? Who were the religious authorities? Who kept the teachings? An itinerant backwater preacher from a jerkwater town in Galilee and his ragtag band of misfits? Galilee was the Alabama of Judea.