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Self-fulfilling prophecy

PoetPhilosopher

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Could the Christian end-times end up being caused by self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the Abrahamic God? And if they are directly the result of people and not God's wrath, is it still God's will due to His prediction becoming correct? Or what if God had a different meaning to His book than people's interpretations, and people brought forth the end-times via self-fulfilling prophecy that wasn't what God meant?
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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Of self-fulfilling prophecies?

A woman is obsessed with the idea that her boyfriend will leave her. Her beliefs cause her to behave in a way that ends up damaging the relationship, causing him to leave her.
I know of a marriage that ended that way. She was afraid he was sleeping around on her and started to believe it. In revenge she slept around on him, and he couldn't forgive it.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I'll give another example. Let's say politicians are scared to death of unchecked communism. So they set up fascism instead. Later on, a communist person becomes the leader under this new fascist system.

Just an idea.
 
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Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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I'll give another example. Let's say politicians are scared to death of communism. So they set up fascism instead. Later on, a communist person becomes the leader under this new fascist system.

Just an idea.
How does it differ from making something happen on purpose? I decide to build a sand castle, and then I build it. Is it a self fulfilling prophecy?
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
How does it differ from making something happen on purpose? I decide to build a sand castle, and then I build it. Is it a self fulfilling prophecy?

That's actually a good thought. Way to game the system :p

But I'm thinking that it'd only be a self-fulfilling prophecy if your actions indirectly, rather than directly, caused the sand castle to be built. I think.
 

Kenny

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Could the Christian end-times end up being caused by self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the Abrahamic God? And if they are directly the result of people and not God's wrath, is it still God's will due to His prediction becoming correct? Or what if God had a different meaning to His book than people's interpretations, and people brought forth the end-times via self-fulfilling prophecy that wasn't what God meant?
Don't think so. Kinda hard to manipulate a whole world.
 

Kooky

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Could the Christian end-times end up being caused by self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the Abrahamic God? And if they are directly the result of people and not God's wrath, is it still God's will due to His prediction becoming correct? Or what if God had a different meaning to His book than people's interpretations, and people brought forth the end-times via self-fulfilling prophecy that wasn't what God meant?
It depends on what you consider "end times". The Christian end times are presumably a spiritual state of the world, but a lot of Capitalist Christians* seem to take it to be an actually observable physical event or process.

*) I am using this for lack of a better term for the syncretic form of Christianity many American conservatives adhere to.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
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Perhaps it is within the bounds of possibility for some nation, or group, to engineer a nuclear war between other nations, and which might be seen as some kind of 'endgame'. :oops:
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Perhaps it is within the bounds of possibility for some nation, or group, to engineer a nuclear war between other nations, and which might be seen as some kind of 'endgame'. :oops:

I haven't even thought about nuclear war, yet. My mind was more looking at the current GOP and their beliefs and trying to fathom whether some of the evangelicals in it are so bent on the idea of living in the end times, that it would take an end time to make them happy.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I haven't even thought about nuclear war, yet. My mind was more looking at the current GOP and their beliefs and trying to fathom whether some of the evangelicals in it are so bent on the idea of living in the end times, that it would take an end time to make them happy.
I'm sure there are such people. I tend to look for worst case scenarios, even if quite remote (I hope).
 

TransmutingSoul

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Could the Christian end-times end up being caused by self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the Abrahamic God? And if they are directly the result of people and not God's wrath, is it still God's will due to His prediction becoming correct? Or what if God had a different meaning to His book than people's interpretations, and people brought forth the end-times via self-fulfilling prophecy that wasn't what God meant?

My view is No, it will not be self fulfilling prophecy, but it will be fulfilled by the 'Self of God'. That Self and the Message will show fulfillment.

It is an Annointed One.

Regards Tony
 
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