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Gods only allowed this to create

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
Why’s it so easy for science buffs to accept people who believe god created existence but not a young earth? Isn’t “CREATING” existence just as “WACKY”? Wouldn’t the most “SANE” thing to believe be that existence has no beginning or end? It’s kind of a joke really.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Why’s it so easy for science buffs to accept people who believe god created existence but not a young earth? Isn’t “CREATING” existence just as “WACKY”? Wouldn’t the most “SANE” thing to believe be that existence has no beginning or end? It’s kind of a joke really.

Because in their view there is no evidence whatsoever for YEC but it seems more possible for God to have caused all things in the way they appear to be.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
I think young-earth is a non-issue for anyone who cares how to interpret Genesis. YEC try to project planet Earth onto the first chapter of Genesis, but Genesis doesn't talk about planets. It doesn't even acknowledge that there is such a thing as planets. It acknowledges only ground and sky and water surrounding the land. The water separates to form land, much like the red sea is miraculously divided in Exodus. Just like there the waters separate from the waters, so dry land may appear.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Why’s it so easy for science buffs to accept people who believe god created existence but not a young earth? Isn’t “CREATING” existence just as “WACKY”? Wouldn’t the most “SANE” thing to believe be that existence has no beginning or end? It’s kind of a joke really.

IMO, it is really hard to fathom an eternal universe.
I think an eternal universe is most likely true as well. I can't imagine something from nothing.
A lot of things science can test and validate.
I don't think science is ready to make that argument though.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why’s it so easy for science buffs to accept people who believe god created existence but not a young earth? Isn’t “CREATING” existence just as “WACKY”? Wouldn’t the most “SANE” thing to believe be that existence has no beginning or end? It’s kind of a joke really.
Apples and oranges.
The age of the Earth is a measurable, physical thing. A God creating existence is not, it's an assertion of agency, not an observable, testable thing or mechanism.

There is reason to believe the existence of the universe had a beginning. There is none for this God of yours.
 

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
Apples and oranges.
The age of the Earth is a measurable, physical thing. A God creating existence is not, it's an assertion of agency, not an observable, testable thing or mechanism.

There is reason to believe the existence of the universe had a beginning. There is none for this God of yours.
In your opinion
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Why’s it so easy for science buffs to accept people who believe god created existence but not a young earth? Isn’t “CREATING” existence just as “WACKY”? Wouldn’t the most “SANE” thing to believe be that existence has no beginning or end? It’s kind of a joke really.
Do you seek an actual open debate over these issues or are you simply on a search for like minded people to laugh at Godless Scientists?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
In the opinion of every person with any knowledge of the subject.
There's certainly more evidence for it than there is for Ussher's Biblical chronology.
The funny think is many creationists are having to push their YEC scenario to about 10,000 years to make the known facts fit their beliefs. To my mind what it the point? The only reason for a YEC scenario is BECAUSE of Ussher. If his timeline doesn't work, throw it whole idea out.
 

Firelight

Inactive member
The funny think is many creationists are having to push their YEC scenario to about 10,000 years to make the known facts fit their beliefs. To my mind what it the point? The only reason for a YEC scenario is BECAUSE of Ussher. If his timeline doesn't work, throw it whole idea out.

Don’t overlook the FACT that scientists conveniently SKIP over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years for which they have NO fossils and NO discoveries for. They have NOTHING to fill in those humongous gaps of time with. Their theories stretch over these gaps of time to include their dating timetables for the few fossils they do have and to force the evidence to connect. They hope nobody will notice these millions and billions of years that must be skipped over due to no evidence.

Let’s throw out their timeline, it doesn’t work!
 

Firelight

Inactive member
The funny think is many creationists are having to push their YEC scenario to about 10,000 years to make the known facts fit their beliefs. To my mind what it the point? The only reason for a YEC scenario is BECAUSE of Ussher. If his timeline doesn't work, throw it whole idea out.

I don’t know who Ussher is, but one only needs to read the Old Testament to come up with a timeline.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Don’t overlook the FACT that scientists conveniently SKIP over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years for which they have NO fossils and NO discoveries for. They have NOTHING to fill in those humongous gaps of time with. Their theories stretch over these gaps of time to include their dating timetables for the few fossils they do have and to force the evidence to connect. They hope nobody will notice these millions and billions of years that must be skipped over due to no evidence.

I don't think you know enough about geology, dating technique, the fossil record, taxonomy and even human history to make such a claim.
 

Firelight

Inactive member
I don't think you know enough about geology, dating technique, the fossil record, taxonomy and even human history to make such a claim.


I know how to notice and read humongous gaps in time. It’s not that difficult. I can read the dates that scientists give to these found fossils. There aren’t nearly enough fossils to cover all the millions and billions of years that they claim the earth has existed.

But, if you want to re-do their time charts to account for each year, let’s see it. Just account for each millionth year, that should make it easier.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Don’t overlook the FACT that scientists conveniently SKIP over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years for which they have NO fossils and NO discoveries for. They have NOTHING to fill in those humongous gaps of time with. Their theories stretch over these gaps of time to include their dating timetables for the few fossils they do have and to force the evidence to connect. They hope nobody will notice these millions and billions of years that must be skipped over due to no evidence.

Let’s throw out their timeline, it doesn’t work!
Really? Give examples of these huge billion year gaps. I'm really curious what you are talking about.
 
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