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What is God?

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What real thing is denoted by the word "God"?

Qualities like
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent,
perfect,
eternal,
infinite,
spiritual,
supernatural,
immaterial​
aren't qualities of real things, only of imaginary things.

So given a God who's found in reality ─ by which I mean the world external to the self, nature, where things with objective existence are found ─ in what form does that God exist?

How could we tell whether we'd found a real one or not?

Or do gods only exist as a set of individual notions within a tradition?
 

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
Infinite space is the only thing I can think of worthy enough for the title of God. Sprinkle a little love on top I guess. Haha
 

Suave

Simulated character
What real thing is denoted by the word "God"?

Qualities like
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent,
perfect,
eternal,
infinite,
spiritual,
supernatural,
immaterial​
aren't qualities of real things, only of imaginary things.

So given a God who's found in reality ─ by which I mean the world external to the self, nature, where things with objective existence are found ─ in what form does that God exist?

How could we tell whether we'd found a real one or not?

Or do gods only exist as a set of individual notions within a tradition?

The notion of there actually being an omnipotent, omniscient, most benevolent supreme being is inconsistent and contrary to observed reality. Children suffering and dying of cancer would not happen If there were really an actual all-knowing, highly benevolent, Almighty God. Me being molested as a child by a youth pastor was a violation of my free will causing me to seriously doubt my belief in an omnipresent, omniscient, benevolent Almighty God.

I consider God as just being the Creator of the heavens, earth as well as being life's Creator.

Our genetic code's creator has left this mathematical pattern in our genetic code conveying to me the symbol of an Egyptian triangle as well as the number 37 embedded in our genetic code.
Eight of the canonical amino acids can be sufficiently defined by the composition of their codon's first and second base nucleotides. The nucleon sum of these amino acids' side chains is 333 (=37 * 3 squared), the sun of their block nucleons (basic core structure) is 592 (=37 * 4 squared), and the sum of their total nucleons is 925 (=37 * 5 squared ). With 37 factored out, this results in 3 squared + 4 squared + 5 squared, which is representative of an Egyptian triangle. Based on this signal of intelligence left in our genetic code, I suspect our genetic coding was created by a greater intelligence beyond the limited scope of us humans on Earth.
The 3 main words (God, the heaven, the earth) in Hebrew have a gematria numeric value of 777 (111x7), ". which is divisible by 37.
The numeric value of the entire verse is 2701 which is divisible by 37.
We may now proceed to finding the number 37 interlaced in the first verse of the Bible. We can do this by discovering words or groups of words with number values evenly divisible by 37, e.g. the 3 main words (“God” + ”the heaven” + ”the earth” = 777 = 21x37), the 5 first words (“In the beginning” + “created” + “God” + “*” + “the heaven” = 1998 = 54x37), or the last two words separately (“and” = 407 = 11x37 and “the earth” = 296 = 8x37)

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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What real thing is denoted by the word "God"?

Qualities like
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent,
perfect,
eternal,
infinite,
spiritual,
supernatural,
immaterial​
aren't qualities of real things, only of imaginary things.

So given a God who's found in reality ─ by which I mean the world external to the self, nature, where things with objective existence are found ─ in what form does that God exist?

How could we tell whether we'd found a real one or not?

Or do gods only exist as a set of individual notions within a tradition?
To me. the list you gave about God, that is the real existence, this world we call real, is not real to me anymore, only God is real.
I know this answer will make some controversy but it is how I come to understand the teaching :) Other people will of course give different answer.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What real thing is denoted by the word "God"?

Qualities like
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent,
perfect,
eternal,
infinite,
spiritual,
supernatural,
immaterial​
aren't qualities of real things, only of imaginary things.

So given a God who's found in reality ─ by which I mean the world external to the self, nature, where things with objective existence are found ─ in what form does that God exist?

How could we tell whether we'd found a real one or not?

Or do gods only exist as a set of individual notions within a tradition?
It's whatever it is in a person's mind.

God is a mental construction made by someone so God is that person who made it up or adopted it and added or subtracted a few things.
 

Suave

Simulated character
To me. the list you gave about God, that is the real existence, this world we call real, is not real to me anymore, only God is real.
I know this answer will make some controversy but it is how I come to understand the teaching :) Other people will of course give different answer.

Are you suggesting we might be simulated ancestral beings living within the ancestral simulation of posthumans living in base reality from where they have programmed simulated beings and simulated universes by some sort of powerful computer?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Are you suggesting we might be simulated ancestral beings living within the ancestral simulation of posthumans living in base reality from where they have programmed simulated beings and simulated universes by some sort of powerful computer?
No :) This reality is driven by humans ego, that is what I mean when I say this world is not real, only God is real. When ego disappear God is visable
 

Suave

Simulated character
No :) This reality is driven by humans ego, that is what I mean when I say this world is not real, only God is real. When ego disappear God is visable

What if futuristic technologically advanced computers could possibly simulate the actions of the brain's neurons realistically along with simulating the brain's sensory input with enough accuracy to convince the simulated character that he is a real person, then would we human beings now most likely be simulated beings living in a simulated universe?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What if futuristic technologically advanced computers could possibly simulate the actions of the brain's neurons realistically along with simulating the brain's sensory input with enough accuracy to convince the simulated character that he is a real person, then would we human beings now most likely be simulated beings living in a simulated universe?
Personally I do not believe in such simulation theory
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I defer to John Winston Lennon ...

God is a concept
By which we measure our pain
I'll say it again
God is a concept
By which we measure our pain
Yeah, pain, yeah
I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I Ching
I don't believe in the Bible
I don't believe in tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in yoga
I don't believe in kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me
Yoko and me
And that's reality
The dream is over
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday
I was the dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the walrus
But now I'm John
And so, dear friends
You'll just have to carry on
The dream is over
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I consider God as just being the Creator of the heavens, earth as well as being life's Creator.
But a real creator or a purely conceptual / imaginary creator?

If real, please describe the real being you have in mind, from the point of view of someone looking in reality to find such a being.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To me. the list you gave about God, that is the real existence, this world we call real, is not real to me anymore, only God is real.
I know this answer will make some controversy but it is how I come to understand the teaching :) Other people will of course give different answer.
It's not about understanding the teaching, it's about identifying the real entity involved, and locating that entity in the world external to the self.

So what real thing are we actually looking for, such that we can identify it as God when we find it?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I defer to John Winston Lennon ...

God is a concept
By which we measure our pain
I'll say it again
God is a concept
By which we measure our pain
Yeah, pain, yeah
I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I Ching
I don't believe in the Bible
I don't believe in tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in yoga
I don't believe in kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me
Yoko and me
And that's reality
The dream is over
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday
I was the dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the walrus
But now I'm John
And so, dear friends
You'll just have to carry on
The dream is over
A pity he's not even John any more.

Ah memories!
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It's not about understanding the teaching, it's about identifying the real entity involved, and locating that entity in the world external to the self.

So what real thing are we actually looking for, such that we can identify it as God when we find it?
I believe one can only find God from within our own being, when all ego is gone
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It means God is not a real entity but only a concept or thing imagined in an individual brain, surely? If god were real you could show [him] to us, no?
In my understanding God is in a different real called heaven, that does not mean God is not real. Or are only physical world real?
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
What real thing is denoted by the word "God"?

Qualities like
omniscient,
omnipotent,
omnipresent,
perfect,
eternal,
infinite,
spiritual,
supernatural,
immaterial​
aren't qualities of real things, only of imaginary things.

So given a God who's found in reality ─ by which I mean the world external to the self, nature, where things with objective existence are found ─ in what form does that God exist?

How could we tell whether we'd found a real one or not?

Or do gods only exist as a set of individual notions within a tradition?

There is one true God, the Father of Jesus and we cannot fathom Him but Jesus can reveal Him to us and we can know Him in relationship.
 
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