What does "freedom from religion" mean to you?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

 

[Eddi]

I think your definition works for me

 

[epronovost]

I would tend to a agree with your formulation though I would have ''freedom from religious and State enforced impositions to any individual''

 

[SalixIncendium]

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

How do you interpret the term?

Like you do above.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

Well the religious (some) might just query 'rights' and 'freedoms', as they usually do. Replacing such by 'duties' and other such no doubt, and gotten from their belief in some religious text over some other religious text.

 

[exchemist]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

"Freedom from religion", without qualification is a tendentious phrase. That's the problem. It assumes, without explanation, that religion is an impediment of some kind.

cf. "freedom from potato crisps".

 

[pearl]

How do you interpret the term?

Religion is by choice. For those who do not believe have a right in non-religious gatherings not to have to participate in prayer and reading of Scripture in a public, non-religious meeting etc.

 

[`mud]

I started here based my curiosity as an ex-catholic , I've been kind of Hinduish spirit wise after that.
I've been introduced to some strange beliefs, but the `Jesus` belief is the most surprising.

I'm astonished by the beliefs that Saul(Paul) invented words about what Jesus really said,
except for Mathew's memory, he must have been in his late 60's, old, old in that time, or any time.

I guess the solution to the apparent questions is: "why are we here"

Brahman direction to Nirvana's completeness makes more sense, doesn't it ?

 

[Psalm23]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

I interpret as an individual freedom to not have to believe and practice a religion. It also means that the government does not force one religion on it’s citizens to adhere to or else. This doesn’t infringe on the right to express and share one’s own religious beliefs.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

I see similar to your opinion but then Christianity is also part of our history. I see more people can have their theology views but if those views are part of law making there needs to be compromise. For example, a church can call it a sin for two men to mary but if governing society, let couples use the word marriage. I'm for separation between church and government but it doesnt always seem the case.

 

[ChristineM]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

Your definition works for me

 

[stvdv]

"freedom from religion"

Free from being imposed by any Religious Fanatics, going against our constitutional rights

But it is the highest time, that we also get protected from Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Brother, ...
Since Corona outbreak they violate so many of our constitutional rights, worldwide
That I think Religion is even far less of a threat in the West than those Big X's

 

[exchemist]

Free from being imposed by any Religious Fanatics, going against our constitutional rights

But it is the highest time, that we also get protected from Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Brother, ...
Since Corona outbreak they violate so many of our constitutional rights, worldwide
That I think Religion is even far less of a threat in the West than those Big X's

What a load of nonsense. Big Pharma has rescued us from the risk of death or serious illness, in double-quick time. And nobody's constitutional rights have been materially infringed - that's just hysterical. Lumping all these categories together is unwarranted.

 

[Katzpur]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

Pretty much the same way as you.

 

[stvdv]

What a load of nonsense. Big Pharma has rescued us from the risk of death or serious illness, in double-quick time. And nobody's constitutional rights have been materially infringed - that's just hysterical. Lumping all these categories together is unwarranted.

Thanks for sharing your opinion on this issue

 

[Mock Turtle]

Religion is by choice. For those who do not believe have a right in non-religious gatherings not to have to participate in prayer and reading of Scripture in a public, non-religious meeting etc.

Sorry to butt in, but do children get a choice, as to what they are fed?

 

[Nakosis]

Inspired by this thread.

I get the impression that people use the term "freedom from religion" in very different ways.

Personally, I take it to mean something like "freedom from religious impositions that would interfere with my own rights and freedoms."

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

Since people seem to be talking past each other on this, I figured a thread about it was in order.

How do you interpret the term?

The impossible dream.

I think the reality is one can't escape from religion. Friends, family, politicians, random people we run into on the street.
At a minimum, freedom from religious control of our civic processes. Even this is unrealistic as many politicians bring their beliefs with them into the position.

 

[icehorse]

However, I see other people who seem to take it to mean "a ban on all public religious expression."

I would amend this slightly to say something like:

"A ban on religious expression that attempts to impact 'the commons' in our societies."

E.g., you wanna wear a symbol on a necklace, go for it. You wanna change how we educate our children, go packing.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The impossible dream.

I think the reality is one can't escape from religion. Friends, family, politicians, random people we run into on the street.
At a minimum, freedom from religious control of our civic processes. Even this is unrealistic as many politicians bring their beliefs with them into the position.

I make a distinction between the beliefs of individual politicians and the official (or implicit) position of the state.

Public institutions should be based on common interests and values. If a decision-maker's personal values are informed by their religious beliefs, that's fine - someone of another religion or no religion at all may have arrived at the same values by a different route.



Ohhh... I just had a realization: maybe some diehard religious people dislike this approach because it makes their religion seem less special. Hmm.

 

[pearl]

Sorry to but in, but do children get a choice, as to what they are fed?

As in all other areas of life when a child is grown she/he will make their own decisions. It is important, I think, that they know what it is they're saying no to.