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Other People's Gods

JustGeorge

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In this thread, I'm looking to hear from theists, and mostly those of the idea that there are multiple Gods, or that God can present her/his/itself in various forms.

How do you feel about other people's Gods? If you have one or two you favor, or you stick within a certain pantheon, what is your relationship with the deities of others? Do you feel they all exist? Are they different forms of similar deities, or each their own entities? Do you acknowledge them, choose to ignore, or something else?

This is not a thread for any One True God 'stuff'. Sorry!
 

Rival

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In some ways I think I acknowledge Dharmic Gods as forms of my own. I'm too new to this to be sure though. I've always felt attracted to Vishnu and his form Krishna.
 

JustGeorge

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In some ways I think i acknowledge Dharmic Gods as forms of my own. I'm too new to this to be sure though. I've always felt attracted to Vishnu and his form Krishna.

In a way, its you(with the picture you showed me lol) who has started my thought process on this. I can't help but think of how they all interact, and I find the concept fascinating.
 

The Hammer

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In this thread, I'm looking to hear from theists, and mostly those of the idea that there are multiple Gods, or that God can present her/his/itself in various forms.

How do you feel about other people's Gods? If you have one or two you favor, or you stick within a certain pantheon, what is your relationship with the deities of others? Do you feel they all exist? Are they different forms of similar deities, or each their own entities? Do you acknowledge them, choose to ignore, or something else?

This is not a thread for any One True God 'stuff'. Sorry!

I'm a practicing Polytheistic Henotheist. I worship in one particular pantheon, but the other Gods exist as well.

I would probably be what you call a "soft" Polytheist though. I think the Gods are emanations/facets of a singular Spiritual Reality, which I consider to be the central energy source of the Universe. Kind of like Brahman.

Edit: This energy source is what is manipulated in order to practice Magick.
 
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Rival

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In a way, its you(with the picture you showed me lol) who has started my thought process on this. I can't help but think of how they all interact, and I find the concept fascinating.
The local shop owners are Indians and they have pictures of Dharmic Gods up. One day they moved the pictures and I couldn't find them. So when I was at the counter I was like, 'WHERE'S KRISHNA????' and the man pointed above the shelf behind him and I put my hand over my heart in a 'phew' gesture. I guess I acknowledge Him somehow, lol.
 

The Hammer

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I would add that unlike the phrase "everything is Brahman", each God/dess when worshipped has they're own distinct personality.

So maybe that makes me more of a moderate/medium Polytheist as opposed to soft/hard (never quite got that dichotomy)
 

JustGeorge

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The local shop owners are Indians and they have pictures of Dharmic Gods up. One day they moved the pictures and I couldn't find them. So when I was at the counter I was like, 'WHERE'S KRISHNA????' and the man pointed above the shelf behind him and I put my hand over my heart in a 'phew' gesture. I guess I acknowledge Him somehow, lol.

Krishna... he does like to hide and play games sometimes, just to see if we're paying attention, I think...
 

JustGeorge

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I would add that unlike the phrase "everything is Brahman", each God/dess when worshipped has they're own distinct personality.

So maybe that makes me more of a moderate/medium Polytheist as opposed to soft/hard (never quite got that dichotomy)

I never got the distinctions either, but I might be a bit dumb.

I always felt each deity had its own personality as well. I don't equate two love goddesses as being the same just because they both oversee certain areas.

At the UU church I used to go to, a sarcastic motto was came up with: "what god is it that you don't believe in?" And then I answered it... I am skeptical of Milda's(of the Baltic pantheon) existence. Her presence doesn't seem to fit in with the culture, and I wonder if perhaps she wasn't added/created as the Baltic people tried to reconstruct their religious past and noted there was no equivalent of 'love goddess' as there seemed to be in other parts of Europe.

Other than her, though, I haven't doubted any others.
 

The Hammer

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I never got the distinctions either, but I might be a bit dumb.

I always felt each deity had its own personality as well. I don't equate two love goddesses as being the same just because they both oversee certain areas.

At the UU church I used to go to, a sarcastic motto was came up with: "what god is it that you don't believe in?" And then I answered it... I am skeptical of Milda's(of the Baltic pantheon) existence. Her presence doesn't seem to fit in with the culture, and I wonder if perhaps she wasn't added/created as the Baltic people tried to reconstruct their religious past and noted there was no equivalent of 'love goddess' as there seemed to be in other parts of Europe.

Other than her, though, I haven't doubted any others.

The Freya/Frigga conflation gets me. Are they two aspects of one goddess. Two goddesses of different pantheons. Different names.for the same deity. Ugh.
 

Rival

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In Kemeticism you can just merge Gods to have such as Amun-Ra, Ra-Atum, Sobek-Ra, -Ra-Horakhty etc. This is very common.
 

VoidCat

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I believe all gods exist but some are merely thoughtforms created by folk others are the same as other deities just different forms etc..
 

JustGeorge

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The Freya/Frigga conflation gets me. Are they two aspects of one goddess. Two goddesses of different pantheons. Different names.for the same deity. Ugh.

I don't know much about this issue. Can you tell me more?

In Kemeticism you can just merge Gods to have such as Amun-Ra, Ra-Atum, Sobek-Ra, -Ra-Horakhty etc. This is very common.

How does this work?
 

Brickjectivity

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In this thread, I'm looking to hear from theists, and mostly those of the idea that there are multiple Gods, or that God can present her/his/itself in various forms.

How do you feel about other people's Gods? If you have one or two you favor, or you stick within a certain pantheon, what is your relationship with the deities of others? Do you feel they all exist? Are they different forms of similar deities, or each their own entities? Do you acknowledge them, choose to ignore, or something else?

This is not a thread for any One True God 'stuff'. Sorry!
Its rare to encounter another person who has gods, though I have. It cannot be stressed enough that this is a personal matter, and a person's gods often (not always) reflect something about themselves. They feel chosen or they choose the gods, so it is personal. When they talk about the admiration for their gods I also hear what virtues they admire, and virtues are to me more important than the talk. Actions speak louder than words.

As for the existence of gods I allow the possibility for a couple of reasons. First, humans are already gods in a way; so if we are in the world there could be other things out there smarter or more capable than we are. Maybe these are considered gods sometimes by some people.

Secondly I don't equate gods and God, so I don't view it as a competition like some people have in the past. Some people think that if there is a powerful being out there that isn't God its somehow diminishing God, and I don't agree about that. I think this belief proceeds innocently enough from a misunderstanding by some Christians about a Jewish law (Exodus 23:13), but I think it (not speaking the names of gods) has become superstitiously and zealously held by some people in my group who are not Jewish. Whatever the Jewish reason is, it doesn't seem to apply to me and even if it did saying the name of a god is not in my case like denying God or trying to tempt God. Again, not Jewish so I do not have such a limitation; and I'm not superstitious about it so not worried about fallout from magic words.

So let me then consider what if other people have gods. I think its cute, but beyond that I try to look at why they have a particular one and what virtues they are interested in. In my mind I count virtue as virtue no matter what the abstract philosophical understanding behind it may be. Discipline is admirable of its own. Love and compassion are. It is not as if love loses its value when you don't use the correct greeting card.
 
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Rival

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How does this work?
They're very intimately associated so they 'connect' in a way. I'm a bit drunk to explain, but many Gods are seen as aspects of other Gods so they can merge. For instance, Ra is the main form of the Sungod, but in a morning He's viewed as Khepri (the Scarab God) associated with dawn, at midday He's associated with Horu (Horakhty, the horizon), and at dusk He's seen as Atum (or sometimes Khnum), and these are all Divine Forms of Ra. So they can merge.

This is essentially how Kemetics can end up with a kind of monotheism, in the end - but the above is standard Kemetic theology according to the texts etc.
 

JustGeorge

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Secondly I don't equate gods and God,

What is the gods in your mind? What is God in your mind?

They're very intimately associated so they 'connect' in a way. I'm a bit drunk to explain, but many Gods are seen as aspects of other Gods so they can merge. For instance, Ra is the main form of the Sungod, but in a morning He's viewed as Khepri (the Scarab God) associated with dawn, at midday He's associated with Horu (Horakhty, the horizon), and at dusk He's seen as Atum (or sometimes Khnum), and these are all Divine Forms of Ra. So they can merge.

This is essentially how Kemetics can end up with a kind of monotheism, in the end - but the above is standard Kemetic theology according to the texts etc.

Ah! That makes sense. I've seen this used some in Hinduism, too, where the same deity will take on different forms and be recognized as an individual in its own right, though its still overall a part of a 'bigger'(for lack of a better word) God/dess.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
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What is the gods in your mind? What is God in your mind?



Ah! That makes sense. I've seen this used some in Hinduism, too, where the same deity will take on different forms and be recognized as an individual in its own right, though its still overall a part of a 'bigger'(for lack of a better word) God/dess.
When I'm less drunk we should talk about this more lol. It fascinates me.
 
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