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Can there ever be a just war?

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
No, I do not see war as solution to anything in the world.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
But the thing is, there are other people out there who do

Indeed there are some in the world to whom war is a good thing

Are we to let such people walk all over us?
I speak only for my view on this topic. I am 100% against war, weapon, or military action
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I disagree.
The end of the supreme authority on Earth the State, is to pursue the common good.
Happiness. Everyone's.
The common good can be achieved only by building a healthy society and health economy.
A just economy.
War brings nothing but economic disasters, deaths.
A State can defend itself, if attacked.
But it shall never start a war.
Because compromise is always the lesser of two evils.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
I think WWII was justified in retrospect. I'm not sure how justified it would have been in 1939.

At the start of the war, genocide really hadn't started yet. It was only later - 1940-41 when the Nazis decided to begin the Holocaust.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
True, but some people cannot be reasoned with, and others actually like war

I told you...I am against any war.
It is certain that all the wars of the 20th century were economic-like. Motivated by greed.
Compromise is always the right thing to do.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I'm against planned war. I'm not against protecting oneself and country.

For example, if you came to my house and tried to hurt me, I'm not against using weapons (if they are around) to protect myself. However, if I'm not in immediate danger, I'm not one to plan an attack against a person.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
Yes, I agree.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
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So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?

There is saying, do other what you want to be done to you. If other nation attacks, by doing so, they give permission for others to attack also. And in a way, if other nation crosses the border and collides with bullets, it is kind of their own fault, when they didn’t have any good reason to do so. This way I think war can be just in some cases. But, it would still be better to avoid it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
I agree war must be conducted time to time.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
Yes I agree that WW2 was a just war, since it was a war of defense against entities that were dead set on taking over the world and enslaving other peoples.

I would say that the war on terrorism, like ISIS, is essentially the same thing.
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
Yes I agree that WW2 was a just war, since it was a war of defense against entities that were dead set on taking over the world and enslaving other peoples.

I would say that the war on terrorism, like ISIS, is essentially the same thing.
The thing is though, the fact that fighting groups such as ISIS is just can be taken advantage of by the military/industrial complex, to cash in on it

I think that the War on Terror has been caused more by the military/industrial complex than by notions of justice
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Question: Can there ever be a just war?

Just War Theory says "Yes"

And I agree with this!

Just War Theory seeks to reconcile the fact that the taking of human life is not morally permissible with the fact that states have a duty to protect their citizens and other innocents, and to uphold justice and that sometimes this can only be done using violence - it shows us how it can be morally permissible to use force and violence if the aim is to protect innocent lives and uphold morality.

Here are two links:

There is Jus ad Bellum - the conditions under which the use of military violence is justified

And there is Jus in Bello - how to conduct a war ethically, once it has started.

I believe that the Allied war effort during World War II met the Jus ad Bellum criteria and also the Jus in Bello criteria - and that the AXIS war effort did not. Far from it.

World War II was essentially a war of annihilation waged by the civilised world against a great evil which sought to dominate all other powers and commit genocide - the side who lost the fight would be annihilated

And thankfully, NAZI Germany and its allies was destroyed

I think this destruction was not only morally permissible but a moral duty

So, in answer to the question: Yes. The Allied war-effort during World War II was.

Do you agree? Or disagree?
Reluctantly, I agree.
 
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