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Can vegetarianism change the world?

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
I still think meat is important... what's the beef?
Why Eating Meat Is Good For Health? – 9 Vital Reasons
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I don't believe in literal karma. I believe that actions have consequences, real life, material consequences.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
We would reduce climate gas emissions substantially (mostly methane, which is about 50 times as potent than CO2). We could sustain earths population with much less land mass. In short, our chances of survival as a species would increase.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
I also do eat meat - because it's so damn cheap. That shouldn't be because it takes more energy to produce meat than vegetarian products. I would go vegetarian again (I was for several years) if the choices weren't so limited and if it was not so expensive.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
What is Flatulence?
Flatulence is excessive formation of gas in the digestive tract. It sometimes can be the cause of severe pain, distention and bloating, as well as social embarrassment.

What causes it?
Most flatus is caused by bacteria in the colon, which ferment undigested food and create gas as a by-product. Swallowing air also contributes to the amount of gas in the intestines. Chewing gum, therefore, should be avoided if increased flatulence is a problem. In addition, foods that may increase intestinal gas are listed below.

  • legumes (dried peas and beans)
  • broccoli
  • cabbage
  • cauliflower
  • corn
  • cucumbers
  • onions
  • turnips
Some other suggestions include:

  • Limit foods containing large amounts of air, i.e. carbonated beverages.
  • If you are increasing the fiber content of your diet, do so gradually.
  • Do not use a straw when drinking. This incorporates more air into the digestive tract.
  • Eat slowly and chew with your mouth closed.
OTC Remedies

  • Simethicone is a defoaming agent. It causes gas bubbles to be broken down or coalesced into a form that can be eliminated more easily by belching or passing flatus. Simethicone is available by itself as Gas-X or Mylanta-Gas, or in combination with an antacid in Maalox Plus or Mylanta.
  • Beano is the brand name of a product containing an enzyme that decreases the gas production or bloating that results from eating various grains, cereals and legumes (e.g., oats, beans, lentils, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbages, onions, corn, etc.) It is added to these foods prior to consumption. Beano is also available
Flatulence | Student Health and Wellness - Medical Care
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beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Let's say everyone becomes v/v tomorrow. There are literally billions of livestock animals, most of which will have no purpose in the food chain. We must either kill them all, or keep them alive and not reproducing until they die off naturally. Because I don't think enough people want cows, goats, chickens, and so on as pets.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
Like I said in an earlier thread on the same topic, it must really suck to be a tiger or bear.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Can vegetarianism change the world?
Nah.
Consider all the problems.
It would mitigate some momentarily, but wouldn't solve any.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Let's say everyone becomes v/v tomorrow. There are literally billions of livestock animals, most of which have no purpose in the food chain. We must either kill them all, or keep them alive and not reproducing until they die off naturally. Because I don't think enough people want cows, goats, chickens, and so on as pets.
It's why I think cultured meat is the answer and the future. It's the real deal and not a substitute.

No animal dies, great for costs and the environment, and it's suffering is limited to the few cells extracted to develop the meat. Win win all around.

Once I find it at my store, I'm trying it out.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Let's say everyone becomes v/v tomorrow. There are literally billions of livestock animals, most of which will have no purpose in the food chain. We must either kill them all, or keep them alive and not reproducing until they die off naturally. Because I don't think enough people want cows, goats, chickens, and so on as pets.
Chickens make great pets, they also give you egg breakfasts.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
Einstein said that the greatest danger to this planet was our over-consumption of meat, which would help destroy our environment. With what we know with the environmental effect of methane gas, he may well have been right all along.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Our treatment of animals - confinement etc is something that should change. Humane treatment should be universal. I think deliberately inhumane treatment of animals does build karma.

And we eat too much meat. Eating less substituting other protein sources can be tasty and healthy. So that is also something worth striving for.
 
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