firedragon
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Thats true. So that means when sanctioning Israel the U.N should typically be afraid of the U.S.A but are not.
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Thats true. So that means when sanctioning Israel the U.N should typically be afraid of the U.S.A but are not.
firedragon
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Who were trained by those who call themselves "democratic" to be.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Which means that we cannot say that the UN refuses to sanction Saudi Arabia because it is afraid of the US.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Well, with your logic, what you say is true. Which means you have to explore why they are not sanctioning the KSA and why they are doing that to Israel which you had already admitted is "the UN is afraid of the US when considering Israel".
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
IMHO the UN is antisemitic. But that's another topic for another time.
Martin
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Who trained the Taliban then?
firedragon
Veteran Member
The Taliban was trained by their piers who were trained by the foundation of the so called anti fascist movement of the time, vis a vis, the United States primarily.
firedragon
Veteran Member
You mean anti Israel. Say it plainly. There is no need to use famously used apologetic phrases.
I think the UN is a conglomerate of competing factions, some of which are pro-Israeli, some neutral, and some anti-semitic.
But they do a good job of exposing Israeli settlements that are illegal according to international law. And I see that as being as important to establishing peace and justice as criticising groups like Hamas is to peace and justice.
In my opinion.
Martin
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Weren't the original members educated in madrassas in Pakistan?
firedragon
Veteran Member
You mean the Taliban? No. Not necessarily in Pakistan. Just because Taliban means seekers of knowledge that does not mean they were necessarily educated in Pakistan. But it is true that some of them, including the famous Mullah Umar was educated predominantly in a Pakistani school close to the Afghan region.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No, I mean the reason that they are anti-Israel is because they are anti-semitic.
Someone who has legitimate concerns about Israel would still apply the same standard to other nations. That is not what the UN does.
Martin
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So when were they "trained" by the US?
firedragon
Veteran Member
These cliche terms used for propaganda doesnt make any difference IC.
But you did say that the UN should typically be afraid of the U.S in approaching Israel, said in other words.
firedragon
Veteran Member
They were trained, funded, armed and grouped by the United States prior to the negligence of the pipe deal that took place after the Russians left. Prior to that.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I said no such thing. I stated a fact, that the UN was not afraid of the US. I did not say that the UN should be afraid of the US.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Nah. What you said was that "If the UN was afraid of the US, then they should not be sanctioning Israel" indicating they should be.
Also indicating something is going on between the U.S and Israel. No worries mate. Just leave it.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
You have not quoted me correctly. The word I used was would, which is predictive, not should, which is a value statement. Here is the actual quote:Nah. What you said was that "If the UN was afraid of the US, then they should not be sanctioning Israel" indicating they should be.
No worries mate. Just leave it.
This quote simply makes a cause effect link, and noting that the effect is not true, concludes that therefore the cause is not true. IOW, I'm simply stating that since Israel IS being sanctioned, that therefore the UN is not afraid of the US, since the US has repeatedly fought against these sanctions.
amorphous_constellation
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It seems to me that the super powers want to use the area as some kind of footing, but they fail at doing this . This apparently causes a protectionist ethic to emerge in the people who live in the region, making for resistance to outsiders, and probably hard living for those inside, as speech and information is far more regulated. I think maybe the Afghans need a way of making themselves rich, by charging the powers with land and resource uses. From there, they see that healthy economic interaction can build peace and stability, and authoritarian power isn't needed