metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Neither.Do you believe the three persons (the father, Jesus, holy spirit) share one being?
Or do you believe the father, Jesus and holy spirit is three different beings?
Again: "essence".
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Neither.Do you believe the three persons (the father, Jesus, holy spirit) share one being?
Or do you believe the father, Jesus and holy spirit is three different beings?
So you believe the three persons (the father, jesus, holy spirit) is three beings in one being? So you believe the father, Jesus, holy spirit is three beings and one being at the same time?Neither.
Again: "essence".
The official trinitarian doctrine, held by all three divisions of the Christian church, is that there is "One God, three persons." Metis is absolutely correct in using the word essense -- it is the best translation of homoousiosSo you believe the three persons (the father, jesus, holy spirit) is three beings in one being? So you believe the father, Jesus, holy spirit is three beings and one being at the same time?
If you believe this then you do not believe in the offical trinity doctrine.
The offical trinity doctrine is that God is only one Being. That the three persons of God (the father, jesus, holy spirit) share one Being. Because God is only one.
According to the offical trinity doctrine the word essence, substance and being has the same meaning.The official trinitarian doctrine, held by all three divisions of the Christian church, is that there is "One God, three persons." Metis is absolutely correct in using the word essense -- it is the best translation of homoousios
Neither.
Again: "essence".
According to the offical trinity doctrine the word essence, substance and being has the same meaning.Neither.
Again: "essence".
Athanasian creedThe official trinitarian doctrine, held by all three divisions of the Christian church, is that there is "One God, three persons." Metis is absolutely correct in using the word essense -- it is the best translation of homoousios
And there is but one essence, one God, according to trinitarianism..According to the offical trinity doctrine the word essence, substance and being has the same meaning.
According to the offical trinity doctrine God is three persons who share one being/substance/essence
Correct. According to the offical trinity doctrine God is only one essence/being/substance. Because God is one.And there is but one essence, one God.
Catholics, ortodox, protestants can you explain the trinity in this tread? Explain the trinity in the way you understand it
First thing to consider is.. "God is perfect"! God does all things perfectly, if he did not then he would not be perfect he would NOT be God!it was good enough for me at the time.
The word shared kind of implies that each person is part of that essence. If that is what you meant, then that would not be Trinitatarianism, since it doesn't teach that each person is a part. But I'm probably just picking at what is simply your best attempt to put it into words... At any rate, remember that I am not personally a Trinitarian. For Jews, the oneness is quite simple. No "father, son and holy spirit."Correct. According to the offical trinity doctrine God is only one essence/being/substance. Because God is one.
So God is one essence/substance/being shared by three persons.
To me it is all three divisions of 'Christendom' ( so-called Christian ) the fake ' weed/tares '.The official trinitarian doctrine, held by all three divisions of the Christian church, is that there is "One God, three persons." Metis is absolutely correct in using the word essense -- it is the best translation of homoousios
Yes, the Word became flesh (No Scripture says God became flesh) God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
Perfect love creates (to make it a little easier to understand).. The second there was God the father there had to be God the son (the word) because God is PERFECT he is Love! The second there was God the Father and the Word there was the Holy Spirit the fruit of Perfect love!
Yes it is just my best attempt to explain the trinity. I know it is not 100% correct.The word shared kind of implies that each person is part of that essence. If that is what you meant, then that would not be Trinitatarianism, since it doesn't teach that each person is a part. But I'm probably just picking at what is simply your best attempt to put it into words... At any rate, remember that I am not personally a Trinitarian. For Jews, the oneness is quite simple. No "father, son and holy spirit."
I agree with you. I believe Jesus is not God Almighty himself. And i agree the Bible teach that Jesus is God's only begotten son, the first of all creations.To me it is all three divisions of 'Christendom' ( so-called Christian ) the fake ' weed/tares '.
The Christian Bible teaches pre-human heavenly Jesus had a heavenly beginning according to Revelation 3:14 B
God had No beginning, God being from everlasting - Psalms 90:2
Whereas, Jesus was "IN" the beginning but Not 'before' the beginning as his God was 'before' the beginning.
Even the resurrected ascended-to-heaven Jesus still thinks he has a God over him - Revelation 3:12
John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.Yes, the Word became flesh (No Scripture says God became flesh) God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.
The 'Word' stands for: Jesus as God's spokesman.
Psalms 104:30 says God sends forth His spirit, Not sends forth the fruit of Perfect love.
I find the 'fruit of perfect love' is just one of God's attributes or qualities listed at Galatians 5:22-23.
One person told me there is No such thing as perfect, a round wedding ring is still Not perfect, but flawed.
I would Not disagree with that measuring, but a wedding ring is completely or perfectly useful for a wedding.
At the soon coming 'time of separation' on Earth Jesus as King 'of God's kingdom' - Daniel 2:44-45 - will judge the figurative 'sheep and goats' according to Matthew 25:40 by the way people treat Jesus' spiritual brothers.
John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.I agree with you. I believe Jesus is not God Almighty himself. And i agree the Bible teach that Jesus is God's only begotten son, the first of all creations.
.Yes, the Word became flesh (No Scripture says God became flesh) God sent pre-human Jesus to Earth for us.
The 'Word' stands for: Jesus as God's spokesman.
Psalms 104:30 says God sends forth His spirit, Not sends forth the fruit of Perfect love.
I find the 'fruit of perfect love' is just one of God's attributes or qualities listed at Galatians 5:22-23.
One person told me there is No such thing as perfect, a round wedding ring is still Not perfect, but flawed.
I would Not disagree with that measuring, but a wedding ring is completely or perfectly useful for a wedding.
At the soon coming 'time of separation' on Earth Jesus as King 'of God's kingdom' - Daniel 2:44-45 - will judge the figurative 'sheep and goats' according to Matthew 25:40 by the way people treat Jesus' spiritual brothers.