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What religion is the one true religion?

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Paradise. (in the next life - in this life I want to earn it)
And how are you going about "earning" it? By fighting with your neighbors? Slandering them and offending them? Sowing hate, discourse, and war?

They provide an extra source of oxygen
are used to make paper
and used to build housing and other things.

we kind of need them?
Right, but they're not all powerful. Sure, good for a few things, but not everything. So what's the use of having a tree if it can't do everything?

Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped. Especially when put there by folk who don't really believe in said gods.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Sure. Fire away. Demonstrate for me how this would work.

Is it that you dont even follow logic and reason as a criterion since you said "there is no criterion"? You cant just have superficial criterions while claiming there are no criterions.

In my mind, reason and logic is the most important criterion and that's the probably the only so called "criterion" that's valid for this kind of topic. Its not to demonstrate how anything would work, it is to actually have a criterion and make reason.

Unless conversations are ll just for the sake having them. Do you understand?
 

Jack Smitten

Modern Day Canvas Entusiest
And how are you going about "earning" it? By fighting with your neighbors? Slandering them and offending them? Sowing hate, discourse, and war?


Right, but they're not all powerful. Sure, good for a few things, but not everything. So what's the use of having a tree if it can't do everything?

Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped. Especially when put there by folk who don't really believe in said gods.
I don't see how you're confused about the tree thing. we kinda need them
"its not all-powerful, we don't need them" remove everything on the planet then
oh and the planet. OH, and the stars too!
 

Viker

Häxan
Is it that you dont even follow logic and reason as a criterion since you said "there is no criterion"? You cant just have superficial criterions while claiming there are no criterions.

In my mind, reason and logic is the most important criterion and that's the probably the only so called "criterion" that's valid for this kind of topic. Its not to demonstrate how anything would work, it is to actually have a criterion and make reason.

Unless conversations are ll just for the sake having them. Do you understand?
I said a criterion for a one true religion/god has yet to be established. So far all I see are circular reasoning, bias, personal mantra and the like.

Where is that criterion? Where is there a connection to a one true religion/god that can not be refuted?
 

Jack Smitten

Modern Day Canvas Entusiest
I'm not. Again: Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped.
as I said
why are you confused about the fact that we need trees
 

Praise Jah

Psalm 83:18
What religion is the one true religion?

Debate start now!!
Those who worship God the right way:
1. Believe and teach only what is in the Bible. (1 Thessalonians 2:13) (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
2. Worship only Jehovah and use his name and teach others his name. (Matthew 4:10) (John 17:6)
3.Show true love for one another. (John 13:35)
4.Obey Jesus and believe God sent Jesus to save us. (John 3:36) (Acts 4:12)
5. Do not get involved in politics (John 18:36) (Acts 5:29)
6. Teach and preach to others that God's Kingdom is the only solution to the world's problems. (Matthew 24:14) (Matthew 6:10)

Only Jehovah's Witnesses meet all these requirements. (Isaiah 43:10-12)
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I said a criterion for a one true religion/god has yet to be established. So far all I see are circular reasoning, bias, personal mantra and the like.

Where is that criterion? Where is there a connection to a one true religion/god that can not be refuted?

So basically you are not interested in any criterions or anything of the sort. At least that's what it seems like Viker.

In fact, do you have any other criterion?
 

Viker

Häxan
So basically you are not interested in any criterions or anything of the sort. At least that's what it seems like Viker.

In fact, do you have any other criterion?
I'm very interested and still waiting.

I don't have or require a criterion for me. I'm not one who believes they have the one true religion.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I understand it to be a metaphor. And, again, it isn't just that I don't want to climb a mountain. It is that the mountain (closeness with the divine) doesn't seem to be there at all.

Atheism is a path. You’re climbing a mountain and don’t even know it. ;)
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Religion (the mountain) most certainly exists. This cannot be rationally denied, regardless of what you believe or don't believe of the goal. That said, your view that closeness with the divine doesn't exist or doesn't seem to be there largely depends on your view of what the Divine is, juxtaposed with what the people worshiping it view it as.

I don’t see the mountain as exclusively religion. There are even non-religious paths up that mountain.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I'm very interested and still waiting.

I don't have or require a criterion for me. I'm not one who believes they have the one true religion.

See, what you need then is to have a thread on evidence for a creator or something like that. But you are engaged in a thread that discusses some true religion, for which if you are to engage, rather than making rhetorical dismissals and enjoyable jibe, you should have some criteria to measure anything against. You dont even seem to like reason and logic by the way you are responding.

Anyway, since this is to compare theologies, which one do you think is more reasonable, polytheism or monotheism? And why? Based on what criteria? At least this way you could eliminate some things to narrow the topic down.
 
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