Trailblazer
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What is your religion?
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What religion is the one true religion?
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lukethethird
unknown member
I'm Xian.
Viker
Häxan
What is Xian?
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
I argue that there are two recommended paths up Everest. Regardless, it is a metaphor. All religions seek some manner of enlightenment or higher state of being: the mountain top. There are paved paths, roped-off paths that are a leisurely stroll up the mountain. There are elevators and lifts. Then there are unhewn, rough paths traveled by native wildlife and the very brave (or very foolish). A myriad of paths, some easy, some difficult. Yet no one path is better than the other, and each lead to the mountain top in just the manner of journey as sought by the one climbing the mountain.
In plain words, there is no One True Religion but for the religion and faith that is true and right for you.
Shadow Link
Active Member
A true religion should take into consideration, all of them – a Metareligion. The CTMU is the closest thing I’ve seen bringing it to a Human Singularity – of course, not all religious ideologies can survive it.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
The absolute truth is the one true religion
If there is only truth within a person, and only truth in their action and thoughts then they hold the one truth religion
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That depends upon what you mean by true.
I believe that all the religions that were revealed by God through Messengers are true religions, but I do not believe everything that their leaders taught and what their followers now believe is true. I believe that the older religions have been altered by man due to the passage of time and those religions are no longer in their original form. I also believe they are in their winter season.
"All that lives, and this includes the religions, have springtime, a time of maturity, of harvest and wintertime. Then religion becomes barren, a lifeless adherence to the letter uninformed by the spirit, and man’s spiritual life declines. When we look at religious history, we see that God has spoken to men precisely at times when they have reached the nadir of their degradation and cultural decadence. Moses came to Israel when it was languishing under the Pharaoh’s yoke, Christ appeared at a time when the Jewish Faith had lost its power and culture of antiquity was in its death those. Muhammad came to a people who lived in barbaric ignorance at the lowest level of culture and into a world in which the former religions had strayed far away from their origins and nearly lost their identity. The Bab addressed Himself to a people who had irretrievably lost their former grandeur and who found themselves in a state of hopeless decadence. Baha’u’llah came to a humanity which was approaching the most critical phase of its history.
‘Abdu’l-Baha writes: ‘God leaves not His children comfortless, but, when the darkness of winter overshadows them, then again He sends His Messengers, the Prophets, with a renewal of the blessed spring. The Sun of Truth appears again on the horizon of the world shining into the eyes of those who sleep, awaking them to behold the glory of a new dawn. Then again will the tree of humanity blossom and bring forth the fruit of righteousness for the healing of the nations.’ Paris Talks, p. 32.’
Some conclusions can be drawn from this fundamental belief. First, all religions are divine in essence and consequently there are no religions which contradict or exclude each other, but only one indivisible divine religion which is renewed periodically and according to the requirements of the age, in cycles of about a thousand years: ‘Our command was but one word.’ Qur’an 54:51. It is therefore hardly surprising if many of Baha’u’llah’s teachings are to be found in former religions either expressly or in an embryonic form. As ‘Abdu’l-Baha says, the Baha’i Faith is ‘not a new path to immortality.’ quoted from: Principles of the Baha’i Faith. On account of this transcendent oneness of all religions, Baha’u’llah exhorted His people to associate with followers of all religions in a spirit of loving-kindness and to make of religion a cause of harmony and peace, not of discord and strife, of hate and division.
The second conclusion is that we cannot perceive what the essence of religion is and what it has the power to achieve if we examine the traditional great religions in their present form. They have achieved much but have reached the end of their road; they were the foundation of great cultures and for thousands of years they were the guiding-star of millions of people in their everyday life and activities. But during the course of history they have also accumulated large amounts of historical ballast. They have moved a long way from their origin and are burdened with their followers’ misdeeds and cravings for power. They are no pleasant sight today, least of all to young people, who no longer see in these religions the ‘salt of the earth’ as Jesus called his disciples, Matthew 5:13 but rather the ‘opium of the people’ (Karl Marx). And one is easily inclined to pass judgment on religion as a whole, and to see in it an anachronism of past times, long since overcome, like the belief in demons in former times. But a withered plant does not give us the faintest idea of its blossoming time. In reality, religions are the ‘light of the world’ and, according to Baha’u’llah’s teachings, the foundation of human culture. It is important to understand that they are as necessary for mankind as sunlight for the plant. Without divine revelation, there would be neither progress nor culture: ‘Were this revelation to be withdrawn, all would perish.’ Taken from (Baha’u’llah, Gleanings, XCIII)."
(Udo Schaefer, The Light Shineth in Darkness, pp. 24-26)
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
Is there anything about the world we live in and see around us that would make you think there is one true religion. I see a world with hundreds of religions competing against each other, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and Christian all kill each other, does not make me think there is a true religion.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Do you mean Christian?
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The mountain thesis in the beginning a man X men theorising a mountain as a pyramid when it didn't even exist.
O earth a planet existed.
O earths heavens existed.
O earth given o. Sink holes laying under a sun converted flooded earth. O gods body saved by the flood.
O mountain above water gone....answer o. UFO did it.
No mountain thesis first. No pyramid either.
Time shifting man liar. A theist.
I built the mountain myself a pyramid.
Then went about sciences paths by history cosmic until mountain plus pyramid was removed again.
Begins new mountain UFO path thesis. Builds his temple stop his mountain. Temple and man time shifts again when UFO ark hits manned temple blows up in a combusting conversion.
When it landed. Man life saved again by science mechanism returns back to nothing. By the dust of a mountain combusting.
The many ways men time shift by a mountain thesis.
Humans on ground saved by flooding rain. Learnt man never came from nothing.
O earth a planet existed.
O earths heavens existed.
O earth given o. Sink holes laying under a sun converted flooded earth. O gods body saved by the flood.
O mountain above water gone....answer o. UFO did it.
No mountain thesis first. No pyramid either.
Time shifting man liar. A theist.
I built the mountain myself a pyramid.
Then went about sciences paths by history cosmic until mountain plus pyramid was removed again.
Begins new mountain UFO path thesis. Builds his temple stop his mountain. Temple and man time shifts again when UFO ark hits manned temple blows up in a combusting conversion.
When it landed. Man life saved again by science mechanism returns back to nothing. By the dust of a mountain combusting.
The many ways men time shift by a mountain thesis.
Humans on ground saved by flooding rain. Learnt man never came from nothing.
lukethethird
unknown member
Same as Christian.
lukethethird
unknown member
Yes.
Viker
Häxan
Okay. Thanks.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You would never think that if you looked at the world with hundreds of religions competing against each other and saw how different they are. You would only think that there is only one true religion which was revealed in various chapters throughout the ages, if you read the Baha'i Writings...
“The Purpose of the one true God, exalted be His glory, in revealing Himself unto men is to lay bare those gems that lie hidden within the mine of their true and inmost selves. That the divers communions of the earth, and the manifold systems of religious belief, should never be allowed to foster the feelings of animosity among men, is, in this Day, of the essence of the Faith of God and His Religion. These principles and laws, these firmly-established and mighty systems, have proceeded from one Source, and are the rays of one Light. That they differ one from another is to be attributed to the varying requirements of the ages in which they were promulgated.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 287-288
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Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
As usual you reply with your scripture, I am not interested in what a book has written in it, there is a real world out there which we live in now, observations on that world are interesting. Obscure ramblings from the past, boring.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
It might be interesting but what are you going to learn by making observations of all the older religions that all disagree with one another? The ramblings from the past are not in my religion, they are in the older religious scriptures.
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
Do you have anything to say about the question I asked or do you just want to preach and push your religion?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You said: Is there anything about the world we live in and see around us that would make you think there is one true religion.
#48 Justanatheist, Today at 10:28 PM
I answered your question when I replied:
You would never think that if you looked at the world with hundreds of religions competing against each other and saw how different they are. You would only think that there is only one true religion which was revealed in various chapters throughout the ages, if you read the Baha'i Writings.
#54 Trailblazer, 40 minutes ago
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
Other than read the words of your scriptures you have not mentioned any observations you have made to show your religion is any more real than the others, nothing, nada, just preaching.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I didn't do that because that is not what you asked. In case you are interested, Tiberius and I are discussing the criteria a Messenger of God would have to meet on another thread.
Atheist looking for religious debate. Any religion. Let's see if I can be convinced.
I am also in an ongoing discussion about God and religion with two other atheists on that thread.