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Covid and Vitamin D

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I came across this the other day and wondered if anyone else had seen it?
Credible medical studies are presented......


Our local doctor came to visit my mother this week and the first thing he asked was if we were both taking vitamin D?
If doctors know that vitamin D is advantageous in helping to bolster immunity, to help resistance to the virus, and to lessen the symptoms of C19 if we do contract it....why aren't we being told? Its a simple thing surely....?
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Best off getting the vaccine if you're worried. Or you might end up sick like I am (though I don't know whether it's covid).
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
There are studies on the relation between levels of vitamin D and the outcome of contracting COVID-19. For example:

The article said:
What do studies say?

Many studies have shown an association between vitamin D and Covid outcomes, but the evidence is largely observational - meaning it looks at what happens to people with higher and lower levels of vitamin D without controlling for other factors.

This isn't gold standard evidence - that would a need randomised control trial, where people are allocated a treatment or a dummy version, so scientists can be clear an outcome is caused by the treatment.

Observational studies do show certain groups are both more likely to have vitamin D deficiencies and to catch Covid - older people, people with obesity, people with darker skin (including black and South Asian people).

It may be that a deficiency is the reason these groups are at higher risk, or there may be other health and environmental factors driving both a fall in levels of vitamin D and greater susceptibility to the virus.

The NHS recommends people with dark skin, "for example people with an African, African-Caribbean or south Asian background", should consider taking a vitamin D supplement "throughout the year".

Levels of the vitamin can also fall as a consequence, rather than a cause, of illness.

We will only be able to isolate vitamin D as a cause by running properly conducted randomised controlled trials like the one being run at the moment at Queen Mary University of London.

Vitamin D: The truth about an alleged Covid ‘cover-up’

The article is from April, but so far, it seems there is no conclusive scientific evidence to suggest that vitamin D (or any other vitamin, for that matter) can replace vaccines or other protective and preventive measures recommended by the WHO and CDC. At best, it seems we can currently say that vitamin D is potentially helpful for bolstering one's immune system against COVID, but according to medical studies, it doesn't seem that there is definitive evidence for much more than that.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
They had talked a lot about Vitamin D last year when Covid first began...I take it anyway, but it's good to know that it can (potentially) boost immunity against Covid.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I came across this the other day and wondered if anyone else had seen it?
Credible medical studies are presented......


Our local doctor came to visit my mother this week and the first thing he asked was if we were both taking vitamin D?
If doctors know that vitamin D is advantageous in helping to bolster immunity, to help resistance to the virus, and to lessen the symptoms of C19 if we do contract it....why aren't we being told? Its a simple thing surely....?

I don't "believe" it works that way. If it was just vitamin D that can solve all coronaviruses (and any viruses for that matter) we wouldn't need all the other treatments to treat and cure people's illnesses and sufferings.

You can get vitamin D over the counter.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I don't "believe" it works that way. If it was just vitamin D that can solve all coronaviruses (and any viruses for that matter) we wouldn't need all the other treatments to treat and cure people's illnesses and sufferings.

You can get vitamin D over the counter.

Yeah, I have my concerns it's not going to really work. To use an analogy, some studies say that estrogen can help ward off covid. I've been taking a form of estrogen as part of my transitioning. Yet, it hasn't warded off any sickness. I've had bad sicknesses twice, the first one with brain fog and my tear ducts acting up in a very bad way. And my best guess as to why it doesn't ward off sickness despite estrogen having some positive qualities, is that any positive effect just isn't powerful enough. Compared to the strength of real medicine, we're talking like a 2% difference compared to a 80-100% difference. Again, this is just an analogy. The numbers 2, 80, and 100, I made up to make a point of why I don't see vitamin D as a valid, proper solution to Covid and instead trust mainstream medical science and Fauci.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I don't "believe" it works that way. If it was just vitamin D that can solve all coronaviruses (and any viruses for that matter) we wouldn't need all the other treatments to treat and cure people's illnesses and sufferings.

You can get vitamin D over the counter.
Basically that. If vitamin D were such a wonder drug against it then we could expect to see this playing out, like people who get plenty of sunshine, eat a diet rich in vitamin D or take vitamin D supplements as a group to be significantly less likely to get covid. But this has not played out and we just are not seeing a trend to support this.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
There are studies on the relation between levels of vitamin D and the outcome of contracting COVID-19. For example:

Vitamin D: The truth about an alleged Covid ‘cover-up’

The article is from April, but so far, it seems there is no conclusive scientific evidence to suggest that vitamin D (or any other vitamin, for that matter) can replace vaccines or other protective and preventive measures recommended by the WHO and CDC.
You rely on the WHO and the CDC to tell you the truth? Sorry but I have no faith in either. Big Pharma has deep pockets and there are many who find a place in them. The health system who produces and recommends the vaccines, dictates to them both. That to me means that the fox is in charge of the hen house....

At best, it seems we can currently say that vitamin D is potentially helpful for bolstering one's immune system against COVID, but according to medical studies, it doesn't seem that there is definitive evidence for much more than that.
That was an interesting article, but again what is the harm of taking more Vitamin D if it helps your immune system. We need all the help we can get.....don't we?

Why do some get Covid that brings them near death, whilst others barely know they have it?
It was stated in the article that those who were worst affected by Covid had low Vitamin D levels......

"Aurora Baluja, an anaesthesiologist and critical care doctor in Spain" . . . .stated that "vitamin D deficiency was a "well-established risk factor" among people who die in intensive care". There is a clear correlation between Vitamin D and survival indicated there.....so why not recommend taking supplements? How can it hurt?
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There is some inconclusive evidence that Vitamin D deficiency (notable in the winter) could have some impact on the immune system.

So from that it seems Vitamin D in the winter might be helpful. It does not replace vaccination, masks etc, but a moderate dose seems reasonable to add.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
I came across this the other day and wondered if anyone else had seen it?
Credible medical studies are presented......


Our local doctor came to visit my mother this week and the first thing he asked was if we were both taking vitamin D?
If doctors know that vitamin D is advantageous in helping to bolster immunity, to help resistance to the virus, and to lessen the symptoms of C19 if we do contract it....why aren't we being told? Its a simple thing surely....?
It already had been suggested as a good thing to consider. I started taking vitamin D tablets (and zinc) from virtually the very start of the pandemic (in the UK) exactly cos of the suggested immune system boost/enhancement. Inhabitants of the frozen north (eg UK) are likely to be low on vit D anyway during the winter months.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I get very little sunshine so my vitamin D levels would be low were I not taking a supplement ( Cod liver oil with D and A)
I have done so for many years as have millions of other people.
There is no evidence at all that people with normal levels of vitamin D get any benefit at all by taking more.
Taking excess vitamins can be harmful even toxic.

It is having low levels of A &D that leads to low immunity to many conditions.
Having raised levels above normal can be harmful.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I get very little sunshine so my vitamin D levels would be low were I not taking a supplement ( Cod liver oil with D and A)
I have done so for many years as have millions of other people.
There is no evidence at all that people with normal levels of vitamin D get any benefit at all by taking more.
Taking excess vitamins can be harmful even toxic.

It is having low levels of A &D that leads to low immunity to many conditions.
Having raised levels above normal can be harmful.
A simple blood test will reveal if your Vitamin D levels are low...and how much you will need to maintain a good level.
I have been on a regime of supplements for years too. You cannot rely on food to give you good nutrition these days.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
It already had been suggested as a good thing to consider. I started taking vitamin D tablets (and zinc) from virtually the very start of the pandemic (in the UK) exactly cos of the suggested immune system boost/enhancement. Inhabitants of the frozen north (eg UK) are likely to be low on vit D anyway during the winter months.
That is good to hear....zinc, garlic, large doses of Vitamin C and echinacea are also good in the wintertime.
But even in summer with sun screens, we are not getting enough Vitamin D either. :(
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
We should be hearing about all the things that can help us with this virus...not just the one thing that makes the drug companies a fortune.
True

Money and Power rule the world, hence they rather censor other things. It's as simple as that. Hence I don't trust those imposing coronavirus vaccines and what not
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
True

Money and Power rule the world, hence they rather censor other things. It's as simple as that. Hence I don't trust those imposing coronavirus vaccines and what not

You do not need to trust an imposer.
However it would be foolish not to trust the Vaccine.
They have save many thousands of lives
They could save yours.
Or perhaps you want to wait and reflect on that in hospital with a tube down your throat.
You would be far from the first to do so.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I came across this the other day and wondered if anyone else had seen it?
Credible medical studies are presented......


Our local doctor came to visit my mother this week and the first thing he asked was if we were both taking vitamin D?
If doctors know that vitamin D is advantageous in helping to bolster immunity, to help resistance to the virus, and to lessen the symptoms of C19 if we do contract it....why aren't we being told? Its a simple thing surely....?
Any healthy lifestyle choices boost immunity. VitaminD is one of many. But then so does daily exercise.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Getting outside in the sun and also eating fatty fish are actually far better sources than popping vitamin D pills.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
You do not need to trust an imposer.
However it would be foolish not to trust the Vaccine.
FYI: That is your opinion (as a claim it's not right). And I have a different view (and read very careful, as to not misinterpret my simple words and jump to faulty conclusions, judgements or claims, as many do lately)

To be clear, and avoid such misinterpretation:
I said "I don't trust these people"
I said NOT "I don't trust vaccines"

I like your signature
 
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Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
FYI: That is your opinion (as a claim it's not right). And I have a different view (and read very careful, as to not misinterpret my simple words and jump to faulty conclusions, judgements or claims, as many do lately)

To be clear, and avoid such misinterpretation:
I said "I don't trust these people"
I said NOT "I don't trust vaccines"

I like your signature

Who could not like the Beatitudes Christian or not.
 
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