If God is energy.

[Aupmanyav]

And by the way. You do not know. You only believe God do not exist.

If no one in the last 5000 years, not even those who claimed to be his prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis have been able to show even a shred of evidence of existence of God, then, I suppose, it is logical to believe that God does not exist. To believe should need some evidence, otherwise it is just an assertion. What people believe is immaterial. Can it stand scrutiny?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes thats true. @Aupmanyav think all people who believe in God is deluded and arrogant. So he do not accept what others believe

Don't change my words. I said deluded and ignorant, not arrogant. You are cheating.

What makes me a bit angry is that he label all people who believe in God as arrogant and deluded

Did I say that? Kindly tell me where?

 

[rational experiences]

Science as human evidence.

A planet does exist. A spatial condition.

O planet created its owned heavens.

Science theory story philosophical. Just a topic with self human not included in visionary theism. To think.

Yet self is present in reality living inside a pre existing created heavens. As a human.

Concludes my world is human life only. Living because two humans created presence is human and had sex.

Parents in nature having sex denotes self presence. The only truth.

What you believe about how or why a human exists is inconsequential to the holy topic self human.

Words and theories human never owned why we were a human.

It is just a human ego argument of I know better than you do.

In life human observation human behaviour quantified theism as lying.

Stated the meaning to lie was a legal human law status.

Science a theory was hence human belief and we were told to stop lying as no man was God.

Actually.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If we are made in Gods image, why can't God have the physical form of a man, but perfect. Of course, this concept excludes the religious texts that state he is a spirit. Maybe because we can't see him, we have assumed he is a spirit. If we believe we were designed after the image of God, then he can't be a spirit and has to have a physical form, but perfect.

If God wish, God may take physical form but in my understanding the connection between humans and God start from within the person.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If no one in the last 5000 years, not even those who claimed to be his prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis have been able to show even a shred of evidence of existence of God, then, I suppose, it is logical to believe that God does not exist. To believe should need some evidence, otherwise it is just an assertion. What people believe is immaterial. Can it stand scrutiny?

In my understanding the connection between humans and God opens up from within the persons spiritual heart, it is not a physical meeting between the believers and God

 

[rational experiences]

Mind says one human only.

Mind then contests...it takes two humans to continue.

Where is God?

The presence of the planet plus it's Multi host gas heavens. Humans living inside holy water oxygenated mass.

God within human bio life advice highest main God advice oxygenated water. Highest percentile within life body.

Choice. What I think. My own questions in one human self presence. My owned self answers.

Then I ask for opinions from my human family.

No God in that advice it is self human advice as a human.

Reasoning a monkey God body presence monkey tells me by experienced human aware advice. It is not talking. It does not know. I am then advising my own self. AwAreness.

Human only.

Human spirituality self owned self lived self experienced. Seen.

Some humans so caring loving others mean cruel nasty.

Atmospheric recorded image voice fed back. As you live.

My guidance once first lived two of spiritual lives not just one.

Mother and father.

Men were told honour both not just one human. Ignored advice.

Men in science believed one self men in science as a God. Introduced machine encoded feedback designed by men in science.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Unless it's clear someone's using the word differently, I assume it's energy as described by physics:
Energy - Wikipedia

Physical terms can sometimes analogically denote mental and spiritual energy. For example warmth and light is used for love.

 

[rational experiences]

Physical terms can sometimes analogically denote mental and spiritual energy. For example warmth and light is used for love.

Abstract thinking defining I know everything is all science expressed.

No human and non of your falsehoods either.

Animals love without your science human lies.

Science said itself nothing was first.

Reasons.

As God in eternal form was activated by friction to release into burning.

Minus one first law

Hence science never owned first law.

Space and God O bodies had.

Burning bursting stoping holding cooling bursting how any form actualized presence.

Example stone yet inside volcanic and iron.

All variations.

Why science said categorically without argument God O in spiral as the eternal created in burning cooling stopping starting all form. How variations kept emerging. Why you can't copy.

O owned everything is Multi faceted as a term many forms of a God.

Then our brother sacrificed told his scientific occult liar brother we walk on water.

Which was Supposed to make a self obsessed human think. Water by mass is present as space by conditions size cold depth heated changed anything owns holding of any form.

Why space was the mother in creation.

Water hence owns a huge amount of spatial pressure. Was created above the stone. Displaced within stone sealing stone in the sun radiation attack.

By law us above the stone.

We literally walk on it.

Why science sent human life into gods hell and memories feedback recorded told us he did. Self combusted life as water factually is above the stone. God as stone was saved by water.

The seal a law was taught to be holy so never change it. Holy as science said so. Science says I learn obviously you don't.

 

[Starlight]

Don't change my words. I said deluded and ignorant, not arrogant. You are cheating.

Im sorry. I did not mean to cheat

 

[Aupmanyav]

That is OK. I never burden my mind with hard thoughts.

 

[rational experiences]

If a human says God is energy in science the theist then writes a formula stating energy. Then not owning it goes about obtaining it from earths forms.

So science said earth was God it's creator in science status. Human practiced.

If the eternal became changed and became God then all.ststes in space came from one place. Yet interactive reactions changed the one base form.

Science hence said so God was therefore energy types everything.

Science also said no man is God as we live not in space but within changes.

Changes however each owned one holy presence no further change either way of thinking.

+ Thinking all ways said first the cross holy thoughts.
+ Then claimed in science addition lied.

Why + addition then conversion sacrificed life. Basic human practiced science advice.

Either way hot or cold science said it had ended in natural form.

Science chose to change everything.

 

[rational experiences]

Man in science also confessed and said God O the earth body told him how to achieve science. The state.

It was man's scientist self contradiction. His confession. Earth told him how. Why it was preached.

It was never cosmic science.

So today is a proven liar.

As he gained science by earth conversion as mass was held sealed the highest God mountain theme irradiated by anti into dust particles mountains release.

Then converted consumed as masses of particles into a nuclear conversion.

∆ said as mountain top x mass disappeared in that reaction then so should I.

Reasoning first earth giant pyramid in science. Origin science. Thesis science was cosmic before science was practiced is where mind is placed.

As before science was theoried it never existed itself. Hence nothing had been theoried. Meaning no science thought existed until it was pondered.

Atop pyramid it used God as natural. Earth crystalline transmitters. He rebuilt put back the crystal form he saw combusted. ∆ mountain tip conversion.

Lied.

God not changed. God had already gone. Part of crystalline mass in earth had already been burnt out.

What lying is.

No human was God mass the origin of why we humans preach the status today via memory of causes.

I saw the vision where he experimented on the human family. Why he is a coward as the theory was his. Never does he experiment on his self. Made them stand inside the pyramid then applied machine status.

Using battery energy for machine condition. I saw the grey flakes come off the wall humans combusted.

How a satanist human in science owns no love of life.

Modern day pyramid only applied a casement for pressure. Yet did man casement the earth also?

No.

Wonder why science is a liar? The status science is to lie.

 

[Starlight]

When you make an assertion, kindly be kind enough to give some evidence about it. Now you talk of a universe other than physical universe, that assertion needs some evidence. You have not given any evidence for existence or eternality of God. And that God is not something created is 'special pleading'. You may believe in things without any evidence but many other people will not do so.

Humans have conscience, and most people like virtues like like peace, truth, kindness, justice, love, forgiverness, goodness. So it is a good argument for the existence of God.

 

[Starlight]

When you make an assertion, kindly be kind enough to give some evidence about it. Now you talk of a universe other than physical universe, that assertion needs some evidence. You have not given any evidence for existence or eternality of God. And that God is not something created is 'special pleading'. You may believe in things without any evidence but many other people will not do so.

The only difference between a theist and atheist is this, this can also prove that God exist:

It doesn't matter if you believe in creationism or evolution for this thought experiment lets go to the source of all things. I am going to call this SOURCE. For theists this SOURCE can be God and for atheists it can be the energy that made up the original big bang it really doesn't matter.

A atheist believe the energy that made the universe is not concious. And theists believe the energy that made the universe is concious.

How did this SOURCE of everything come into existence?

It is 2 possible ways SOURCE came into existence:

1. It has always existed with no beginning and no end.
2. Magically popped into existence from nothingness.

(it was Focusedintent who wrote this, in this tread: Proving logic can't explain existence | Religious Forums).

 

[Polymath257]

Humans have conscience, and most people like virtues like like peace, truth, kindness, justice, love, forgiverness, goodness. So it is a good argument for the existence of God.

I'm not seeing how that is an argument for the existence of a God. Could you elaborate?

 

[Starlight]

If this "spiritual energy" cannot be seen or measured, why should anyone believe it exists?
Unicorns and leprechauns can't be seen or measured, either. Is it reasonable to believe in them?

The only difference between a theist and atheist is this, this can also prove that God exist:

It doesn't matter if you believe in creationism or evolution for this thought experiment lets go to the source of all things. I am going to call this SOURCE. For theists this SOURCE can be God and for atheists it can be the energy that made up the original big bang it really doesn't matter.

A atheist believe the energy that made the universe is not concious. And theists believe the energy that made the universe is concious.

How did this SOURCE of everything come into existence?

It is 2 possible ways SOURCE came into existence:

1. It has always existed with no beginning and no end.
2. Magically popped into existence from nothingness.

(it was Focusedintent who wrote this, in this tread: Proving logic can't explain existence | Religious Forums).

 

[Starlight]

I'm not seeing how that is an argument for the existence of a God. Could you elaborate?

It is a good argument for the existence of God. In my opinion.

 

[Polymath257]

The only difference between a theist and atheist is this, this can also prove that God exist:

It doesn't matter if you believe in creationism or evolution for this thought experiment lets go to the source of all things. I am going to call this SOURCE. For theists this SOURCE can be God and for atheists it can be the energy that made up the original big bang it really doesn't matter.

A atheist believe the energy that made the universe is not concious. And theists believe the energy that made the universe is concious.

How did this SOURCE of everything come into existence?

It is 2 possible ways SOURCE came into existence:

1. It has always existed with no beginning and no end.
2. Magically popped into existence from nothingness.

(it was Focusedintent who wrote this, in this tread: Proving logic can't explain existence | Religious Forums).

I notice that both of your possibilities depend on the existence of time. So you are claiming time doesn't have a SOURCE?

How about the third possibility, that time and this 'SOURCE' are co-existent, but that time itself could have a start?

And why do you assume there must be a single 'SOURCE' at all? Why not many different sources, all independent of the others?

 

[Starlight]

Argumentum ad populum.
Just because a belief is generally held is not evidence for its truth. Over the centuries majority demographics have believed all sorts of things later forgotten or shown to be wrong.

And what's with all this "logical" stuff? I think you mean "reasonable."

I wrote a bad argument. you are absolutely right. The majority is not always right.
So that there are most theists in this world is a bad argument for the existence of God.

 

[Starlight]

This is still and argumentum ad populum fallacy. A fallacy is a basic mistake in logic. Logic is not decided by the majority. Thinking logically is actually rather difficult and I doubt that anybody thinks logically about everything.

You also seem to be using the word in a way that suggests that you don't understand what it means. It isn't just "what seems kind of reasonable to me". Logic has structure and defined rules.

Humans have a well documented propensity to see agency where none exists, which is probably where the idea of spirits and gods originated.

I wrote a bad argument. you are absolutely right. The majority is not always right.
So that there are most theists in this world is a bad argument for the existence of God.