Yet....men (except for trans men) must register.There hasn’t been a draft in the U.S. in 48 years.
Some have since advocated reviving the draft
even in peace time, eg, Chas Rangel.
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Yet....men (except for trans men) must register.There hasn’t been a draft in the U.S. in 48 years.
The unicorn industry has costs.And there should be free stuff for everybody that only the top 1% pay for, and no more war, or pollution, and free unicorn rides!
But men (not trans men) must still register for the draft.
Only for those who planned on joining anyway.
For the others, it is coerced.
Ostensibly. But politics will introduce exceptions,
eg, getting pregnant, converting to a pacifist faith,
becoming a priest.
Even against their will?
I prefer that military pay be high enuf to get the
job done solely with volunteers. If a society that
doesn't serve isn't willing to pay volunteers to do
what they won't or can't, it's not a society worth
defending.
Also, it's inefficient to draft aerospace & weapon
design engineers to carry a rifle on the front line.
A libertarian's perspective....The government coerces me to pay taxes.
For those who feel the call of duty, this is fine with me.Others may feel this a duty. Got to be done sometimes.
There are always exceptions. And in a real war, we all knowNo exceptions. That's the ideal. Politics often gets in the way of the ideal.
This doesn't give government the right to impose any burdenA lot of things happen against the will of the individual for the benefit of the society at large. If you don't want to support society then you shouldn't get any benefit of being a part of it.
I prefer the option of an all volunteer army.Go find some forgotten corner of the world and be self-sufficient.
If you want to be part of society you have to take the good with the bad.
There's still no need to force service upon the unwilling.I wouldn't put a rifle in the hands of someone who has no willingness to use it to defend their country against invasion. They can serve in other ways.
Wait...do you hate the government most of the time too?It's like we share one brain!
Wait...do you hate the government most of the time too?
And there should be free stuff for everybody that only the top 1% pay for, and no more war, or pollution, and free unicorn rides!
But it sounds better if you call it community service.The 13th Amendment allows the use of prisoners as slave labor.
Oh, great...a question loaded with socialist rhetoric.But it sounds better if you call it community service.
When was the last time the US military "defended" anything but corporate interests and capitalism itself?
When was the last time the US military "defended" anything but corporate interests and capitalism itself?Revoltingest said: ↑
.... If a society that
doesn't serve isn't willing to pay volunteers to do
what they won't or can't, it's not a society worth
defending.
Pravda! -- So we're in agreement.Oh, great...a question loaded with socialist rhetoric.
Anyway, WW2 was the last self defense war.
What makes it 'their' country, an accident of birth?....I wouldn't put a rifle in the hands of someone who has no willingness to use it to defend their country against invasion. They can serve in other ways.
But what does "serve one's country" mean? You're certainly not serving the people.I don't mind people being drafted to serve their country for a limited period. I lot of people I know have learned a trade while serving in the military.
At the same time, I don't trust the government when it comes to decisions about war.
In defense of the country, sure. If they need folks to go to war in other countries, not so much.
So to serve one's country sure. To go to someone else's country and kill people, I'm not for that kind of draft.
But the US militarism is an impediment to liberty, both abroad and at home. Look how quickly the Homeland Security Act appeared after 9/11. Look at Snowden's revelations: how domestic surveillance has become universal. Look how the police have been militarized.....To maximize liberty for all, I favor paying taxes to finance
compensating voluntary soldiers.
“Fair share”? Hilarious. When it’s not your ox being gored “fair” it is capricious.I didn't actually propose this, but are you saying that the top 1% shouldn't pay their fair share? They're the only ones who benefit from war. Most of what the government spends money on is for the benefit of the top 1%, while they do none of the work. The work of society is done by the working classes, so they should be exempt just for that reason alone. The wealthy idlers and people of leisure should be made to pay, since they provide no useful purpose for society.
Everyone should pay what they owe. The workers have already done their part. Now is the time for the 1% to pay, and they should be made to pay dearly. They have centuries of wealth built up that they need to atone for, at least 500 years worth. Their comeuppance is overdue.
“Fair share”? Hilarious. When it’s not your ox being gored “fair” it is capricious.
I say it would be fair that all your wealth should confiscated and none of mine. Does that sound fair to you?
A fun thought experiment I'd like to hear your answer on.
Their ox is an amalgamation of bits gored from those that actually did the work.“Fair share”? Hilarious. When it’s not your ox being gored “fair” it is capricious.
I say it would be fair that all your wealth should confiscated and none of mine. Does that sound fair to you?