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Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
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Harel13 said:
Come now, we all know DIR is short for the Hebrew words דיר עיזים (Dir Izzim), which means "goat-pen", because that's what this place (sometimes) is.
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That is funny, but it brings up an interesting tangent. Fences don't physically prevent goats from escaping. Fences keep goats from thinking about escaping. A fence probably wouldn't protect your food from a goat that wanted to get in, but it might keep a goat from leaving if it didn't know that it couldn't leave.
 
Harel13

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
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Premium Member
Brickjectivity said:
That is funny, but it brings up an interesting tangent. Fences don't physically prevent goats from escaping. Fences keep goats from thinking about escaping. A fence probably wouldn't protect your food from a goat that wanted to get in, but it might keep a goat from leaving if it didn't know that it couldn't leave.
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Perhaps we should use this analogy when explaining to members who want to leave about what it means to have their accounts "deleted"...
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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Brickjectivity said:
That is funny, but it brings up an interesting tangent. Fences don't physically prevent goats from escaping. Fences keep goats from thinking about escaping. A fence probably wouldn't protect your food from a goat that wanted to get in, but it might keep a goat from leaving if it didn't know that it couldn't leave.
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Having been the proud owner of goats i can assure you its not a point of not knowing how to leave but leave when they are ready to leave
 
Ghazaly

Ghazaly

Member
Harel13 said:
Welcome!

For a moment, your profile pic reminded me of Maimonides:

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- It's a portrayal of Imam al-Ghazali. Not odd, since he is his great-grand student.
 
Ghazaly

Ghazaly

Member
Brickjectivity said:
Debate here is defined to be any conversation in which one person corrects another, tries to show them where they are incorrect etc.

Non-debate is any conversation in which people do not correct each other and merely state what they think about issues, not about what other people on the forum think.

Debate must only happen in areas specially marked for debate, because that makes moderation easier.


Accessing your dir, the Islam dir, requires changing a setting in your account settings -- adding a check to the 'Abrahamic' box then waiting for about an hour. Until then you will not be able to post in the Islam dir.

'Dir' is short for directory'Dir' is short for 'Discuss Individual Religions' and it refers to an exclusive section of the forums. A Dir is a section of the forums exclusively for the use of people who belong to the designated religions or other groups For example only Christians may post in the Christian dir.
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- Thanks for the useful info. Can't say I don't love correcting others, though I can't debate in places other than those designated for debate right?
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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Ghazaly said:
- What made you apostatize? What kind of interpretations or reforms do you support? Which sets are you referring to?
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- The complete answer would require a very long post. The short answer is a multitude of ethical and logical objections I had to concepts and teachings within mainstream Sunni Islam (the sect I was brought up in), such as the classification of homosexual relationships as a sin, the lack of gender equality in multiple ways, and the notion that non-believers will go to Hell for eternity after death, among other things.

These eventually led me to question the idea that a god exists, and I left the religion when I found no reliable evidence that one does.

- I support interpretations and reform that endorse progressive values such as endorsement of LGBT rights, gender equality, and freedom of religion. Some Qur'anists have such views and reject a lot of intolerant hadiths, for example, as do some Sufis. These are just a couple of sects that have a subset of progressively minded followers; there are progressives and reformers within all sects, of course.

Thanks!
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You're welcome!
 
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PoetPhilosopher

PoetPhilosopher

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Winning a debate is pretty easy here. The hard part is when it takes on its 6 page afterlife and ascends from the pit, only to be ready for more.
 
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