OK, so admitting that science cannot know what came before the Big Bang, or even what precipitated it; that starting point is not a mystery for Bible believers who understand (from his written communication to mankind) that an infinite Creator existed before the physical universe.....everything in existence comes from this powerful Entity, the one who can create “something from nothing”.....and whom science will never be able to quantify, nor invent any physical “test” for his existence......he will not perform tricks for anyone to prove his existence....because his creation already speaks volumes about him. He doesn’t need to prove anything to any of us......I believe that it is we who need to prove ourselves to him. So that is the major difference IMO. So many atheists judge God by the idiots who claim to represent him......he is nothing like their man-made doctrines portray.
When does design not need a designer? When does any human invention not come from an intelligent source and fulfill the purpose for which it was designed? When does information not need an informer or a physical means to transmit it? When does programming not need a programmer? Science IMV, has never been able to answer those questions in any satisfactory way. Making suggestions based on what “might have” or “could have” taken place before there was a means to document anything, makes theoretical science nothing more than an educated guessing game to me.
This is another aspect of science that I find extremely annoying.
Science stands itself on a pedestal and makes claims that it can’t substantiate, then accuses those who see clear evidence of intelligent design in the physical world, as those who need the bear the burden of proof. If science can confidently state that it needs no proof for any of its assertions, why does the Creator need to answer to their lack of belief? If people don’t “believe” by observing his creation, then what makes them think he owes them more? If you go to a gallery that is exhibiting paintings by Van Gough....do you need proof that they are genuine, or can you trust those that know his work intimately to guarantee that they are not reproductions?
But if the “evidence” (for evolution specifically) is misinterpreted or biastly interpreted and presented as fact, then “belief” can run amok from both sides.....one in defense and the other in support....but "belief" is all that separates them.
Absolute “proof” does not exist for either claim, so you have two sides who cannot “prove” their case, but science seems to see its position as superior.....I cannot see why, unless science itself has become just another “religion” of "believers" with a different mind set and a different way of evaluating creation.
All science has is its own interpretation of its evidence, but at the end of the day, in the bigger picture, whilst so many are arguing about the details, stepping back to see the big picture tells a different story.
Science’s first premise (amoebas to dinosaurs) has not a single shred of evidence to prove that it ever happened the way that science suggests it “must have”.....or even that it was biologically possible. To suggest that "adaptation" can lead to new creatures, via 'common ancestors' has never been proven. These “common ancestors” on every graph I have ever seen, are never identified. That is like having a chain with no links. These links are suggested because without them evolution falls in a heap. Who can talk to me about proof then....?
All experiments in adaptation have led to new varieties within a single species, but have never stepped outside of that “family”. Interbreeding capabilities or not, they never became creatures that were outside of their biblical “kind”...did they?
If you build a castle on matchsticks, how long will it stand? You can admire the construction all you like, even argue about details of the construction materials, but don’t ignore the foundations. (Matthew 7:24-27)
This is, I guess the most difficult thing for atheists to comprehend....the fact that this incredible Creator can actually interact with us individually, and confirm his existence to us in a very real way. Do you honestly think he has any interest in those who have no interest in him? He knows us and what is in our heart. To believers, creation is the absolute proof of God’s existence, his interaction with us just confirms it.....but to unbelievers, creation is no such thing....science has eliminated all need for an intelligence responsible for creation, so excuses are found to make him go away. If you want him to go away, he will. He does not need us....we need him. I believe that we will all find that out in the not too distant future.
No, on the contrary, it proves to me what the Bible says....that no one can come to the Creator without his personal invitation. (John 6:65) Those who demand proof will get it eventually, but not in a way that will benefit them. God is choosing citizens for his Kingdom, and each one of us will need qualifications in order to be accepted. Believers will not all qualify, let alone unbelievers. (Matthew 7:21-23; 1 Peter 4:17-18)
Could there be a reason why God has chosen not to show himself to those who need to be convinced by more “evidence” than the vast amount that already exists? Giving it a different interpretation doesn’t necessarily make it the right one. Time will tell, but in the meantime, have you tried asking God in humility and with an open heart to reveal his truth to you?
It seems as if you have never studied anything that would lead you TO God.....”religion”...”theology”....”philosophy”...so far has not led you to God, but rather these have confirmed for you the error of those things as a means to know God. "Seek and you will find"....are you a seeker?
and I realized that it will take a long time to reach the answer, so maybe investigating without a set goal is best