Did Jesus Mention Mohamed in John 14? Only directed to Muslims

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The Bible shows there is two witnesses with every soul as does Quran, one of deceit and one of truth, the spirit of truth is the king/leader of the time such as Moses, Jesus and Elijah. Mohammad (s) is also an instance of the holy spirit.

The holy spirit is a position of connecting creatures to God the inward kingdom and his emanation and light and connection and a position that God doesn't ever have vacant. There is always one person on earth to take it.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You guys talk about the holy spirit and confuse others and yourself by it! Is it an Angel? Is it a human? Is it a god? Or is it station occupied by....? Be clear.

I’m not confused, He is the Holy Spirit of God and when I received the Gospel I was born again and filled with the Holy Spirit just like the believers in the Bible. God did that and the Holy
Spirit is described many places in the Bible.
“Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭ESV‬‬
I personally don’t know any other way.

 

[JerryMyers]

Some Muslim Scholars Said Jesus was talking about Mohamed in John 14 ,What they said is not true and I know some of you know its a lie too. So my question To Muslims Do you Believe them? If you do tell me why and if you don’t tell me what you think the reason they lie

Christians believe that the ‘spirit of truth’ in John 14:17 is a direct reference to the Holy Spirit, thus, they cannot accept that Jesus was referring to another man or person and NOT to the Holy Spirit per se.

The Holy Spirit is the divine energy of God’s very nature, presence and it is the expression of God’s power and it can be present in anyone God want it to be. I can say the spirit of truth is Jesus or Moses or Abraham or Muhammad because they will always speak the truth, but that does not mean they are all THE Holy Spirit !

In John14:16, 14:26, 15:26 and John16:7-14, we are told by Jesus, that ANOTHER Comforter will come after him. By saying ‘another Comforter’, common sense will tell you that there is already a Comforter among the people (ie. Jesus himself) and before he departed, he will ask God to send ANOTHER Comforter. IOW, the Comforter who Jesus spoke of is a direct reference to a person, a man, who will dwell among the people, just like Jesus did.

So, clearly, in John 14:17 the ‘spirit of truth’ cannot be the Holy Spirit as per se, but it’s a direct reference to a person who will also receive the Spirit of God in him. Moreover, in John 16:7, Jesus said the other (that is, another) Comforter WILL NOT COME if he did not go away, which common sense again should tell you that the Comforter is a direct reference to a person, NOT a direct reference to the Holy Spirit as the Holy Spirit (of God) has always been around since the beginning of time – IOW, there is NO SUCH THING as ANOTHER Holy Spirit - there’s only one Holy Spirit – that is, only one divine energy/spirit of God,, just as there is only ONE God.

You think there is ANOTHER Holy Spirit of God ??? Or maybe Jesus does not know what he was talking about when he said he will ask God to send ANOTHER Comforter/Advocate ??? LOL !

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes because it would not be the truth according to the Scriptures.
Key verse:
“even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:17‬ ‭ESV‬‬
(With you and in you).
Fulfillment of this:
“When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭ESV‬‬
(Filled with the Holy Spirit).

Can the holy spirit be the spiritual wisdom one gained and not something "magical" ?

 

[JerryMyers]

If you read Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:4 you understand why it can never be Mohamed

What nonsense are you talking about here ?? What have Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:4 got anything to do with the Comforter Jesus was talking about ??

If you still insist that the Comforter Jesus spoke of is the Holy Spirit and this Spirit came on the day of Pentecost, then, tell me HOW did this Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost, proved the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: about sin, because people do not believe in him; about righteousness, because Jesus is going to the Father, where the people can see him no longer; and about judgment, because the prince of this world (Jesus) now stands condemned (John 16:8-11) ????! By making the people speak in foreign languages ?? And where in Acts 1 or Acts 2 did this Holy Spirit ever speak because Jesus also said that this Comforter (which you claimed is referring to the Holy Spirit per se) will only speak what he hears and will not speak on his own (John 16:13) ???!

 

[stvdv]

Some Muslim Scholars Said Jesus was talking about Mohamed in John 14 ,What they said is not true and I know some of you know its a lie too. So my question To Muslims Do you Believe them? If you do tell me why and if you don’t tell me what you think the reason they lie

I think it is quite simple:
All scholars are humans. All humans are prone to making errors. This is true for Christian Scholars, Muslim Scholars, Hindu Scholars etc.

IF you met "some Muslim Scholars" who said something incorrect THEN I could mention "some Christian Scholars" who did the same (IMO)

Some do it to win souls for their cause, some might be ignorant, you and I might be wrong above
But bottom line, I don't care so much how another interpret some Scripture verses, unless of course it leads to violent actions

 

[stvdv]

Can the holy spirit be the spiritual wisdom one gained and not something "magical" ?

Can the Holy Spirit be something different than the Spiritual Wisdom one was Granted?

But anyway: Spiritual Wisdom can go hand in hand with "magical" stuff too (God Grants "Everything"),

Note: God is said to be Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent

 

[Spirit of Light]

Can the Holy Spirit be something different than the Spiritual Wisdom one was Granted?

But anyway: Spiritual Wisdom can go hand in hand with "magical" stuff too (God Grants "Everything"),

Note: God is said to be Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent

I can not speak for holy spirit because I do not know what it is

 

[Shakeel]

That’s correct, I also notice that Muslims also ask tell me where Jesus says (I am God), those exact words. To try to say Jesus never said He was God.

Well, he didn't.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Well, he didn't.

Neither is Muhammed’s name in the Bible

 

[ElishaElijah]

Can the holy spirit be the spiritual wisdom one gained and not something "magical" ?

Spiritual wisdom is gained by a person walking in the Spirit, living and applying the Word of God to your everyday life.
I wouldn’t say The Holy Spirit is “magical” like the force. He is God’s Spirit at work in believers and on the Earth today drawing people to Christ, He is doing just like Jesus said in John 16 and also in the Church:
“To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12:7-11‬ ‭ESV‬‬

 

[Shakeel]

Neither is Muhammed’s name in the Bible

At least you admit that much, but

 

[ElishaElijah]

At least you admit that much, but

I wasn’t admitting that Jesus isn’t God, He said and demonstrated that He is, the Father said He is, Bible shows He is although He himself didn’t use the exact words you’re asking for.

 

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I’m not confused, He is the Holy Spirit of God and when I received the Gospel I was born again and filled with the Holy Spirit just like the believers in the Bible. God did that and the Holy
Spirit is described many places in the Bible.
“Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭ESV‬‬
I personally don’t know any other way.

You are confused, and it's part of the way you gets are tricked by Satan not to accept Mohammad (s) as he occupied the position of the holy spirit as well. So by your answer it's either God or a god.

Try to think past the irrational concept of trinity for once.

 

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Neither is Muhammed’s name in the Bible

It is though, you guys just mistranslate it and derive it from a word (in the translation) from a word that is not it's root.

 

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Christians believe that the ‘spirit of truth’ in John 14:17 is a direct reference to the Holy Spirit, thus, they cannot accept that Jesus was referring to another man or person and NOT to the Holy Spirit per se.

The Holy Spirit is the divine energy of God’s very nature, presence and it is the expression of God’s power and it can be present in anyone God want it to be. I can say the spirit of truth is Jesus or Moses or Abraham or Muhammad because they will always speak the truth, but that does not mean they are all THE Holy Spirit !\!

Actually the holy spirit is about connecting humans and Jinn to God and guiding them spiritually and yes in a way that is omnipresent, and it's been occupied by a human since Adam till now.

The spirit from God's Authority is called the "holy spirit", and it's about the leader and king of the time, who is with everything in the universe, it's light guiding them to God and is the glory of the universe.

Also the sky/heaven connected to this world, is occupied by a family of the reminder at all times, they are the holy spirit as well.

On the day of judgment, Angels are going to be in ranks and the spirit from God's command, which is all the Prophets and chosen humans, they all are the spirit God chosen to connect himself through.

It's used singular the same way the path of God and name of God is used singular and plural from other angles. It's one spirit from one angle, and they all each holy spirits from other angle, but the position of the "Ruh" is about God's breath to his creation and it's an occupation by God's chosen humans.

 

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The Kursi (seat), the Mulk (kinship), the Amr (the authority) and the Ruh (Spirit) from God's Authority or the holy spirit and the Right handed Qareen (close companion), is all about the same station, and it's also what is meant by the leadership and being a course to God of Ibrahim (a).

"The day we call every (group of) humans with their leader....", it's the leader and it's also the light talked about "the likeness of his light is as a lantern...light upon light God guides to his light who he pleases....".

It's also the spirit God helps believers from himself "and has helped them with a spirit from him" and is also the light they walk by "fear God and he will give you two portions of his mercy and light by which you walk".

And it's the light revealed in the Quran, the position of Ahlulbayt (a) is also that same, the position of the holy spirit.

The spirit of God's Authority combines in itself all attributes of God but in lesser finite scale, but it has all glory and beauty of God in a finite level, and occupies all items of the universe and all existing things are somehow part of what makes it what it is.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Spiritual wisdom is gained by a person walking in the Spirit, living and applying the Word of God to your everyday life.
I wouldn’t say The Holy Spirit is “magical” like the force. He is God’s Spirit at work in believers and on the Earth today drawing people to Christ, He is doing just like Jesus said in John 16 and also in the Church:
“To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12:7-11‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Thank you for a very good explenation

 

[Shakeel]

I wasn’t admitting that Jesus isn’t God, He said and demonstrated that He is, the Father said He is, Bible shows He is although He himself didn’t use the exact words you’re asking for.

Right, you admitted he never says he was God.

 

[ElishaElijah]

At least you admit that much, but

Solomon’s wife is describing her husband Solomon in this Chapter and saying this word is talking about Muhammed is a phonic fallacy.