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How faith alone changes the word of God

Human survival.

Faith in my self that I am an innocent as a human as compared to human science theism by humans as destroyer Satanists. Who infer my life in word use to evil.

Faith that my word use not science thesis will bring to your mind attention about human survival on earth versus your satanic occult science status.

Theism about all history of death and converting destruction. By your word use.

Human faith using words in descriptive spiritual human survival skills to hope that words will save us as human advice. By explanation only.

thanks for sharing
I guess you’re and atheist?
Did you know you’re a Protestant?
The two children of the Protestant revolt are
Fundamentalism: faith without reason
Atheism: reason without faith
Modern enlightenment atheism I refer to
The problem is fallen human nature
Reason is fallen and fallible requiring divine revelation
 
Biblical truth and witnessing only helps christians (like colonization etc)-it's a self-centered practice that is not meant to benefit the other person in his or her own needs but the needs and divine justification of the person witnessing. That doesn't change the world for the better. This mentality has a track reward of death. Scripture quoting doesn't erase history nor does it change that people still do these things today for the "betterment" of the person they are witnessing to.

Behavior through witnessing is self-centered practice. To "change the world" we need to 'work' together not have each other believe what we want them to. Counterproductive.

please tell me you’re insight on this


Science proves man is a hybrid, and the existence of a spiritual reality, and logic proves there must be a creator!

According to the scientific law of change, man is a hybrid body and soul, or person, the law of change being applied, the body changes all through life, but the person does not change, you are always the same person, so man must be a hybrid!

Your body is physical and sense perceptible, or known by the senses.
What is the origin of your body, it is according to science the result of natural conception of your parents!

Your person is not physical, not sense perceptible, therefore not physical, so there must be some non-physical reality, or spiritual reality!
A supernatural reality!

What is the origin of your person, it is not physical so it does not result from physical natural conception, at one time you did not exist, now you do exist, the only logical conclusion is that you were created, so there must be a creator!
 
I find baptism is necessary for the figurative ' sheep ' at the soon coming time of separation - Matthew 25:31-33,37.
Baptism plus enduring to the end according to Jesus at Matthew 24:13.
As for the already dead, 'death' is the total price tag that they Paid in Full according to Romans 6:23,7.
So, their ' salvation ' (deliverance / rescue) will depend on what they do ' after ' they are resurrected.- Acts 24:15

have you put on Christ or died with Christ?
 
However, the ^ above ^ words " Faith Alone " are Not found in Scripture.
Plus, Mark chapter 16 ends at Mark 16:8.
The style of writing changes after verse 8.
There aren't the corresponding reference verses after verse 8 as there are before verse 9.

After the death of the Apostles their ' healing ' wonders through the name of their holy servant Jesus ended.
- Acts of the Apostles 4:30; Acts of the Apostles 2:43; Acts of the Apostles 5:12; Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30

really?

please explain
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Science proves man is a hybrid, and the existence of a spiritual reality, and logic proves there must be a creator!

According to the scientific law of change, man is a hybrid body and soul, or person, the law of change being applied, the body changes all through life, but the person does not change, you are always the same person, so man must be a hybrid!

It does? How? Science just says we are animals and we run off instinct, biological functioning, and neurons firing in the brain that we think are actual thoughts.

How did the creator come in?

Can you explain how logic plays in a creator without assuming there is one?

Where does science say we have a soul? The closest science gets to that is it's a product of the mind, our perceptions, experiences, and feelings.

The body changes just as the earth and other natural and biological "products" of the universe. We are born, live, age, and die.

Your body is physical and sense perceptible, or known by the senses.
What is the origin of your body, it is according to science the result of natural conception of your parents!

Your person is not physical, not sense perceptible, therefore not physical, so there must be some non-physical reality, or spiritual reality!
A supernatural reality!

How did you get supernatural reality?

I don't believe that's anywhere in science. Maybe Neurotheology | Columbia University Press that uses science to explain spiritual experiences from the brain.

What is the origin of your person, it is not physical so it does not result from physical natural conception, at one time you did not exist, now you do exist, the only logical conclusion is that you were created, so there must be a creator!

Not sure how you got this.

What does science have to do with it?
 

John1.12

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How “Faith Alone” changes scripture!

Matt 24:12 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

Matt 24:13 he who endures till the end shall be saved.

Matt 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, they are saved by “Faith Alone”.

Matt 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mk 16:16 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

Mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born by “Faith Alone” thru the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and preached “Faith Alone” 23 And John also was also preaching “Faith Alone” in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much people there: and they came, and believed.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made more disciples by “Faith Alone” than John.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be saved by “Faith Alone” and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as believe by “Faith Alone” into Jesus Christ were believed into his death?

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by “Faith Alone” into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all believed by “Faith Alone “ into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been believed by “Faith Alone” into Christ have put on Christ.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that a man is justified, by faith only.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even “Faith Alone” doth also now save us!

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

Part 2

1 cor 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have “Faith Alone” so that I could remove mountains, I am saved.

1 cor 13: 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

1 cor 13:13 And now abideth “Faith Alone” this one, and the greatest is “Faith Alone”.

1 cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, to have “Faith Alone”.

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now we are saved.

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Negating the word of God!
There's too many errors here to cope with.
But let's look at the last one , because it should clear up the rest . The word ' salvation ' is referring to Rom 8.23 . Which i.ll hazard a guess you will have no clue what its referring to .
 

John1.12

Free gift
How “Faith Alone” changes scripture!

Matt 24:12 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

Matt 24:13 he who endures till the end shall be saved.

Matt 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, they are saved by “Faith Alone”.

Matt 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mk 16:16 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

Mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born by “Faith Alone” thru the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and preached “Faith Alone” 23 And John also was also preaching “Faith Alone” in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much people there: and they came, and believed.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made more disciples by “Faith Alone” than John.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be saved by “Faith Alone” and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as believe by “Faith Alone” into Jesus Christ were believed into his death?

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by “Faith Alone” into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all believed by “Faith Alone “ into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been believed by “Faith Alone” into Christ have put on Christ.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that a man is justified, by faith only.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even “Faith Alone” doth also now save us!

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

Part 2

1 cor 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have “Faith Alone” so that I could remove mountains, I am saved.

1 cor 13: 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

1 cor 13:13 And now abideth “Faith Alone” this one, and the greatest is “Faith Alone”.

1 cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, to have “Faith Alone”.

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now we are saved.

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Negating the word of God!
" Faith alone " ? What do you mean by that?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
i wonder if a fact can be false?

i then wonder if a truth cannot be false?
Depends on your definition of "truth," I suppose: objective, ontological, vs overwhelmingly evidenced.
All scientific facts are provisional, however well evidenced.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Humans bodily present first choose science.

His story science group looks back to theory. To own the cause new reaction.

Says group men brothers were same DNA.

We apply reaction. Reaction does not exist.

We do + cross first addition. React. Reaction equals minus one removes holy Cross. Our addition. He never owned form though.

Holy Cross never first existed addition in maths to remove form. Lied.

Was lying the scientist.

Cannot do earth science a reaction unless a man with men as science and brothers.

Reaction changes nature. Said so.

Garden by stone laws burns bushes on ground.

Garden body oxygenator in water begins as life support human to evict as it's burns.

Brother awAre medical genesis DNA same exact man. As his DNA changes his brothers DNA changes in a God conversion reaction.

Seen.
Recorded by AI feedback.
Visions....memories thesis science.

Watches as his DNA was destroyed by God reactions

The result the end began his story to teach. So he owns the answer first to preach his Inheritance.

So you say when I began the reaction suddenly my rib I owned bodily disappeared. As man theist scientist sacrificed by God stone.

Total advice why brothers separated separetly into new DNA bodies.

Theme. If I applied reaction again. Big mass I used was the same to react.... the exact same result change to DNA would occur yet it would own new names as I attacked removed what I owned left from previous attack once again.

Slowly science is bodily removing his man presence by occult reaction cause.

Memory of any man in science today. I was slowly removed over a long period of time as a man.

Thesis today human mutation was once a healthy human compared to what I have left living healthy as DNA.

Advice. Says so. Tells everyone mutated humans gone sacrificed out of DNA. Does not even listen.

Yet you aren't God the reaction that disappeared wholly. Science discusses God. Man theist theory to disappear wholly myself. Uses God reaction to try to own self removal as the theist.

Man says I said just stone gases with no sun metal returned as stone and saved heavens. Saviour of life owning no sun radiation as mass. Gas owns the least radiation presence.

As those gases did not penetrate the stone to not own sin holes in earth. Science sees God the stone and it has holes. Science identified stone was never replaced. As it owned holes.

They knew. Reason to protest bible.

Ignored.

Science is blatantly our destroyer so they try to coerce by stories. Word coercer the sophist scientist.

Bible blamed God. The blame was man the scientist.
 
It does? How? Science just says we are animals and we run off instinct, biological functioning, and neurons firing in the brain that we think are actual thoughts.

How did the creator come in?

Can you explain how logic plays in a creator without assuming there is one?

Where does science say we have a soul? The closest science gets to that is it's a product of the mind, our perceptions, experiences, and feelings.

The body changes just as the earth and other natural and biological "products" of the universe. We are born, live, age, and die.



How did you get supernatural reality?

I don't believe that's anywhere in science. Maybe Neurotheology | Columbia University Press that uses science to explain spiritual experiences from the brain.



Not sure how you got this.

What does science have to do with it?

calm down
Thanks for sharing
Science proves the physical body changes
Science proves the person (soul) but I don’t use religious terms does not change
That’s all science has to say
It is limited to the known physical universe

you are a hybrid
You’re body is the result of natural conception
What is the origin of you’re person????

you are not an animal with only instincts
But an intellect and a will
Example:
A hungry healthy dog cannot refuse to eat, he will eat every time cod all he has is animal instincts
But you can think about many reasons not to eat, and choose not to!
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
calm down
Thanks for sharing
Science proves the physical body changes
Science proves the person (soul) but I don’t use religious terms does not change
That’s all science has to say
It is limited to the known physical universe

you are a hybrid
You’re body is the result of natural conception
What is the origin of you’re person????

you are not an animal with only instincts
But an intellect and a will
Example:
A hungry healthy dog cannot refuse to eat, he will eat every time cod all he has is animal instincts
But you can think about many reasons not to eat, and choose not to!

I'm honestly not sure what you're getting at?

We're a hybrid body, but with religious terms like soul isn't related in that sense to the physical workings of the body.

How do you define a person (soul); and, if that word is another word for a person/a biological living being, whats the significance of using that word?
 
There's too many errors here to cope with.
But let's look at the last one , because it should clear up the rest . The word ' salvation ' is referring to Rom 8.23 . Which i.ll hazard a guess you will have no clue what its referring to .

thanks for sharing your insights

maybe this will help Cos I think a lot of people confuse these terms

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...
Christ alone accomplished the redemption of mankind apart from any works on our part!

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Suffering required for glorification with Christ!

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:




1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)
The holy church is the ark of grace and salvation!

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Faith is part of works!

Works is defined as something we choose to do, volition!

Faith is also works because you have to choose to believe! Jn 1:12 Jn 3:16 rom 10:9

And continue to believe, a perpetual state of believing. Matt 24:13 Jn 15:1-5


In grace works have merit

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Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

All are redeemed

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Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
 
No . Eph 1.13 . 1 cor 1.21

promise

The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery
Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

faith yes
Faith and baptism (sacrament)

Faith alone no! 1 cor 13:3

now do you believe Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38???
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Like Bible alone as opposed to the scripture and tradition or the teaching authority of the apostles acts 2:42
And on top of that, the Bible did not choose itself as the canon of the Bible was written and then selected by the Church itself.
 
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