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Being Humbled

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
But for sure I don't think many folks who do it realise they're doing it. If they did, they'd change, and I also do know some who have changed.
I realize but I would not stop sparring. My efforts perhaps help other people to spot falsehood.
How do you know whose right or wrong when talking of religion?
What criteria let's one know they are wrong?
Check the arguments that the people offer. Measure them in the scale of science.
Weigh them against Buddha's 'Kesamutti Sutta'.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My experience that is people have a very difficult time being humbled and admitting something they did or said was wrong. I've seen this quite often in life, and it is especially prevalent here on RF. Rather than being humbled and admitting they made an error or were incorrect about something, they will continue to argue in an attempt to "save face," often leaving a debate with pie on it as a result.

If I make a mistake or am proven wrong on a point, I find it more productive to simply admit I was wrong and learn from the experience.

I'm not sure anyone particularly likes being humbled, but why, in your opinion, people will risk their reputation for honesty in order to not be seen by others as having been wrong about something?

As for me, I have more respect for someone who can admit to being wrong than I do for someone who belabors a point even though they know they're wrong just so people don't think they were wrong.

Of course, I might be wrong about all of this.

Your thoughts?
I hope some day that I'm wrong, so that
I can prove my worth by admitting it.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Is that the responsibility of the writer or reader?

It helps when one is impeccable with one's word. Failure to do so, in my experience, creates as much drama as making assumptions about what one says.
I make some allowances for folks who have English as their second language.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
If I make a mistake or am proven wrong on a point, I find it more productive to simply admit I was wrong and learn from the experience.

Having been married for over 50 years, I can attest to the value of admitting mistakes, even those I did not make, in the interest of marital harmony.

"When debugging is the activity to get errors out of a program, then programming is the activity to get them in." is a humbling proverb in the industry.

There are some activities where learning to deal with one's own mistakes is mandatory. Programming is one although some try to hide their bugs. But what can't be hidden are mistakes on TV during the Olympics, to name an obvious example.

"To err is human. To forgive, divine"
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
There are some activities where learning to deal with one's own mistakes is mandatory. Programming is one although some try to hide their bugs. But what can't be hidden are mistakes on TV during the Olympics, to name an obvious example.

"To err is human. To forgive, divine"

Try writing ... and proofreading, and proofreading again .... then once more for good measure. Then a friend scans a page and finds 3 more mistakes.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Try writing ... and proofreading, and proofreading again .... then once more for good measure. Then a friend scans a page and finds 3 more mistakes.

I'm familiar with seeing what I expect to see rather than what's there.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
My experience that is people have a very difficult time being humbled and admitting something they did or said was wrong. I've seen this quite often in life, and it is especially prevalent here on RF. Rather than being humbled and admitting they made an error or were incorrect about something, they will continue to argue in an attempt to "save face," often leaving a debate with pie on it as a result.

If I make a mistake or am proven wrong on a point, I find it more productive to simply admit I was wrong and learn from the experience.

I'm not sure anyone particularly likes being humbled, but why, in your opinion, people will risk their reputation for honesty in order to not be seen by others as having been wrong about something?

As for me, I have more respect for someone who can admit to being wrong than I do for someone who belabors a point even though they know they're wrong just so people don't think they were wrong.

Of course, I might be wrong about all of this.

Your thoughts?

Well a lot of it has to do with the way it's done.

What I mean is, if you're going to take it upon yourself to "correct" someone, might ask yourself:

--- am I trying to be helpful? Are the details that I'm trying to straighten the other person out about relevant to the conversation? Are they necessary for understanding what's being talked about? Or am I just playing "gotcha"?

--- should I do this in front of a group of people? Or would be better done in private?

--- is it possible that I may be unaware of a few details myself? Should I explore that possibility before making any definitive declarations?

--- if I were on the receiving end of this would I see it as somebody trying to be helpful by providing some details I may have missed? Or would I wonder if I were being called a liar?

Presentation has a lot to do with it.

People generally respond better to requests for clarification then they do to being put into a position where they have to defend their claims, or for that matter their integrity.
 
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