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Your Thoughts on God's Will For Believers In Christ Jesus?

MatthewA

Active Member
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?
I think you will not find any group practicing these, except for monks and nuns. What you will find mostly are part timers. The requirements are stringent, not easy. These people lived in communes, close knit communities. Various groups in modern times have attempted to return to this model: Shakers, Quakers, Pennsylvania Dutch (Amish)...and others. None have managed to maintain such a community that I know of. They've all got bank accounts, individually owned farms and retirement plans etc. The Shakers died out, because they stopped having children.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world......
I get it. You’re a Christian who is passionate about his faith. I have no problem with that. What I, and maybe it is only me, find problematic is that you don’t seem able to avoid inserting into your posts comments that are not core to the discussion but are, rather, used for what I see as preaching.
 

MatthewA

Active Member
I think you will not find any group practicing these, except for monks and nuns. What you will find mostly are part timers. The requirements are stringent, not easy. These people lived in communes, close knit communities. Various groups in modern times have attempted to return to this model: Shakers, Quakers, Pennsylvania Dutch (Amish)...and others. None have managed to maintain such a community that I know of. They've all got bank accounts, individually owned farms and retirement plans etc. The Shakers died out, because they stopped having children.

Thank you for commenting Brickjectivity. So you do not believe you will find any group practicing these (things spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5 12-22) is what you mean right?

To you the requirements are stringent, not easy. (Are you talking about the things spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5:12-22)? Why is it to you are they not easy?

You are right about (the people in Thessalonica ` who were part of this church that was being written to by Paul) where in very close and tight knit communities (Probably also mixed with Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ Jesus).

Thank you for the information on some others who tried to replica a community sort of based on the bible?
 

MatthewA

Active Member
I get it. You’re a Christian who is passionate about his faith. I have no problem with that. What I, and maybe it is only me, find problematic is that you don’t seem able to avoid inserting into your posts comments that are not core to the discussion but are, rather, used for what I see as preaching.

My apologizes for that RabbiO if you feel as though am preaching. Just desire to share the truth at least to as close as we can we can get when it comes down to sharing the bible. That is why it is enjoyed to share the scripture (yes you are right), I do try to project or at least given an understanding that these letters/books in the bible.

Have context with-in them, real living people, and real things being said and problems going on in their communities, and in their faith, and the only best way to really understand anything when it comes to the bible is to give context which is as close to the truth as you can get though it is possible for me to be wrong.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
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Premium Member
Thank you for commenting Brickjectivity. So you do not believe you will find any group practicing these (things spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5 12-22) is what you mean right?

To you the requirements are stringent, not easy. (Are you talking about the things spoken in 1 Thessalonians 5:12-22)? Why is it to you are they not easy?

You are right about (the people in Thessalonica ` who were part of this church that was being written to by Paul) where in very close and tight knit communities (Probably also mixed with Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ Jesus).

Thank you for the information on some others who tried to replica a community sort of based on the bible?
Correct.

The reason they are not easy is that people have personalities, and they have paranoia. Paranoia is very complicated and once triggered is difficult both to see in one's self and to deal with as a group. For example a person can start to feel hunted and see everything around as an attack. Have you heard of married people who can't stand one another's chewing? Now take that problem and multiply it by a close knit community. Secondly wolves do rise from within, as Paul says. Somebody always wants to steer, and it can be from what they think are the most reasonable and good reasons. There are many ways for paranoia to set in. Perhaps someone thinks the elders are out to get them, or perhaps an elder goes wrong in the head. And somebody always wants to steer. Some people are always gifted at getting their own way, perhaps very good at talking. Other people always want a leader, so they put someone into a leadership position. Lastly the very tight knit nature of a group is what makes it so easy to divide. Everyone cares deeply, so it only takes one very strong argument to completely split the group into two, often along family lines.

Yes, Thessaloniki. They probably lived near to each other in order to keep the Sabbath.

You are welcome. There are many other examples of groups that have attempted this.
 

MatthewA

Active Member
Correct.

The reason they are not easy is that people have personalities, and they have paranoia. Paranoia is very complicated and once triggered is difficult both to see in one's self and to deal with as a group. For example a person can start to feel hunted and see everything around as an attack. Have you heard of married people who can't stand one another's chewing? Now take that problem and multiply it by a close knit community. Secondly wolves do rise from within, as Paul says. Somebody always wants to steer, and it can be from what they think are the most reasonable and good reasons. There are many ways for paranoia to set in. Perhaps someone thinks the elders are out to get them, or perhaps an elder goes wrong in the head. And somebody always wants to steer. Some people are always gifted at getting their own way, perhaps very good at talking. Other people always want a leader, so they put someone into a leadership position. Lastly the very tight knit nature of a group is what makes it so easy to divide. Everyone cares deeply, so it only takes one very strong argument to completely split the group into two, often along family lines.

Yes, Thessaloniki. They probably lived near to each other in order to keep the Sabbath.

You are welcome. There are many other examples of groups that have attempted this.

Brick: Can see sort of what you mean. So what would you say about that in respects to the Modern Day Church ? Do you believe a harmony of which was - which is being written in 1 Thess 5, to the people at Thessalonica, - is impossible to achieve what those before were able to do in (say Thessalonica or any other letter written that is part of the bible)?

Also (Do not know if you believe or are a believer (forgot)) a question would be for a person who is a believer in Christ Jesus ~ Would the believer who believes and trust God be able to by the spirit - by the spirit carry out those things which are talked about 1 Thessalonians 5:12-22 ? You may not and that is okay if you do not.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?
Do you believe that there is only one God? If so, then why would God's will be 'different' for Christians than it is for everyone else?

That said, as far as the New Testament is concerned, I think there are a lot of verses that would indicate what God's will was for Christians. I would say that the Old Testament and the Torah would be what God's will was for those who adhere to the Jewish faith.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I think you will not find any group practicing these, except for monks and nuns. What you will find mostly are part timers. The requirements are stringent, not easy.
Given my tangential mind what you said reminded me of something Baha'i posted on a forum some time ago, which he gave me permission to post. This was in reference to abstaining from unlawful sex , sex outside of marriage, but it could apply to other activities that are not within God's law.

"Our spiritual nature cannot be developed except by "dying to self" and "living in God." God has given us a dual nature: one material and one spiritual. Sex is part of the material nature, however much it may be able to play a role in a truly loving relationship. It is not what we are, even though people insist that it is..... God is calling us to struggle against our lower nature and to become who we truly are: not material beings, not sexual beings, but spiritual beings who are in control of the physical side of our nature and who can thus find true happiness living in conformity with His will. Although not scriptural, there is a possible explanation of why He has made it so hard that I ran across long ago in a Baha'i children's book: Because if it were too easy, it wouldn't be worth anything. Or put another way, because only by being challenged can we really prove our love for God."
 

Neuropteron

Active Member


Hi,

Everyone might not think so, but I find it encouraging that you make the effort to analyze the letters of Paul to find practical principles that we can apply in life.

You ask:
What are your thoughts about these scriptures that seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Paul's qualification as an Apostle of Christ convinces me that his comments to the Thessalonians are in harmony with God's will, as does the fact that his letter is in harmony with the rest of the scriptures. I don't see any reason to doubt or question any part of it.

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Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

2 Tim 3:16 " All scriptures is inspired of God and beneficial...".
Although this scriptures technically refers to the OT, we can arguably stretch it's application to the NT.
Since this is also from Paul, could we assume a self-serving bias? yes we could, but were these comments inspired they would come from the same author anyway, God.
In that case, as I believe, they definitely would have the highest merit.
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Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?

I think you're asking if anyone has found these principle in other publication apart from the Bible.
Yes, God's principles are to be found in many people and are a part of many religions.Although I think that only the Bible has all of them.

Cheers
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.

It's not always easy but thanking God and realising that we should be thankful is certainly God's will for us.

Psalm 50:23 Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the blameless I will show my salvation.”
Heb 13:23 Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the blameless I will show my salvation.”
1Peter 2:4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
It's not always easy but thanking God and realising that we should be thankful is certainly God's will for us.
Tell me about it... :rolleyes: That is the MOST difficult thing for me to do as it is a 'good day' when I am not blaming God for my sorry plight. I guess the atheists have take a toll so I have to turn to Christians to try to counterbalance that.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Tell me about it... :rolleyes: That is the MOST difficult thing for me to do as it is a 'good day' when I am not blaming God for my sorry plight. I guess the atheists have take a toll so I have to turn to Christians to try to counterbalance that.

It certainly can be hard on a forum like this to keep your faith strong at times. It also can be hard to see the good things that God has given us when we are in the midst of a bad day. That is something that at times we need God to open our eyes to.
But thank God for good days.
 

John1.12

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What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.
I'm not sure what the point is ? Of course its true . what is the question please ?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm not sure what the point is ? Of course its true . what is the question please ?
I believe this from the OP are the questions @MatthewA want answers to.
From his OP
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


 

John1.12

Free gift
I believe this from the OP are the questions @MatthewA want answers to.
From his OP
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.
Thessalonians is written to new believes ( approx 4.-5 years saved . Its written to the body of christ ,so it all directly applies to us today .
 

InChrist

Free4ever
What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.

I was just reading in a devotional today, by Ruth Chou Simons, on God’s will for believers expressed in 1 Thessalonians 4:3 and some of the others you listed. Specifically, God’s will is for believers to be sanctified; set apart and made holy, living a life pleasing and honoring Christ.
 

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What are your thoughts about these scriptures to seem to profess God's will for Christian believers?

Do you believe what these scriptures found in 1 Thessalonians 5 have any merit to the life of a Christian believer considering it has to do with God's will for believers?

Have you ever been presented this before in your life time of what God's will is that is found in the scripture of the bible?


The verse for God's will for believers in Christ Jesus is shown in verse 18.

Hope you are able to make it through and understand truly what is being said and presented here to you. May God give the increase to you by and through your faith and trust in God and the Lord Christ Jesus. ~ If you do not believe ~ Still may you and your family and friends be okay, and be safe out here in this world.

Please note: Am subject to being wrong; it is possible what is presented to you here is wrong, so viewer discretion of what you may read is advised.

1 Thessalonians 5:

12But we ask you (Paul) (1 Thess. 1:1), brothers (Those who are at Thessalonia (1 Thess 1:1-10), to acknowledge those who work diligently among you, who preside over you in the Lord and give you instruction (Speaking about those who elders in the church, in that time period: Paul is encouraging to listen to those who are working among you to help you in your faith, and trust in God, and finding the truth in the Gospel of Christ).

13In love (In love - Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill love), hold them in highest regard because of their work. (hold them in respect ~ as they are helping you in your faith ~ Also ~ If possible) Live in peace with one another. (By the spirit and with God all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)


14And we urge you, brothers, to admonish (gently warn by the spirit) the unruly, encourage the fainthearted (encourage those weak in faith), help the weak (help the weak in strength), and be patient with everyone (be patient with everyone).

15Make sure that no one repays evil for evil (If someone commits and malicious action against you, trying to slander you, (if in real danger call police get help!), trying to say you did something when you did not do whatever it was a person is saying) ~ Pray for them, do not repay them back. Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people. (Always pursue what is good for one another and for all people).

16Rejoice at all times. (Lean on the Lord always) Strong's Greek: 5463. χαίρω (chairó) -- to rejoice, be glad

17Pray without ceasing. (Pray without ceasing) Strong's Greek: 89. ἀδιαλείπτως (adialeiptós) -- incessantly

18Give thanks in every circumstance, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (Give thanks in every circumstance) Strong's Greek: 3956. πᾶς (pas) -- all, every: (For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus) Strong's Greek: 2307. θέλημα (theléma) -- will

19Do not extinguish the Spirit. (Continue in faith; growing in knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and walking by the spirit)

20Do not treat prophecies with contempt, (encouragement to the Thessalonians : to not give up on the promises of God that were coming, including the return of the Lord Jesus Christ ~ the promises of Eternal Life ~ Holy spirit ~ communication with God through prayer)~ Resurrection from the dead Strong's Greek: 4394. προφητεία (prophéteia) -- prophecy Strong's Greek: 1848. ἐξουθενέω (exoutheneó) -- to despise, treat with contempt

21but test all things. Hold fast to what is good. Test all things ~ by the spirit/ by and with the word of God ~ Hold fast to what is good.

22Abstain from every form of evil.

Abstain from every form of maliciousness ~ bad evil. Strong's Greek: 4190. πονηρός (ponéros) -- toilsome, bad

These have some of my own inserted comments in this: Along with some more information that deals with some of the language here in this 1st book of Thessalonians. Would like you to decide for yourself it what you are reading is true or not; on the subject matter of God's Will for a Believer In Christ Jesus found in Verse 18.

If you were to believe in the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), you would not be following the false prophets, the wolves in sheep's clothing, such as Paul, who was one of the two horns of the beast (Constantine the founder of the Roman church via his Council of Nicaea and his false dogma of the Trinity). For those with the mark of the beast, which includes Sunday day of rest (321 AD) and Trinity dogma (325 AD), they apparently will have to drink from the cup of God's wrath (Rev 14:10). The only people raising from the dead to rule with the Christ, will be those without the mark of the beast (Rev 20:4). As for prayer, God does not listen to the prayers of the wicked (Jer 14:11-12) and tells Jeremiah not to pray for them. It is the tares/wicked/lawless (under false gospel of grace), who are facing the gathering of the angels, to be cast into the furnace of fire. (Mt 13:30) This is to precede the gathering of the wheat into the barn. God's will is for the coming of the kingdom, which entails the judgment of the wicked/lawless. Apparently, according to Zechariah 14, that starts with the nations coming against Jerusalem. You might want to look at the news reports concerning Turkey, Iran, Lebanon, and the Gaza strip with respect to Jerusalem. The consequences for the nations is the plague of radiation poisoning (Zech 14:12).
 
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