Sirona
Hindu Wannabe
@SeekingAllTruth and others.
My faith as I understand it forbids me to engage in “quarreling” but given the fact that no other Hindu has taken up the challenge yet, I will try to sort this out.
Yeshua and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
Krishna is called “Bhagavan / Bhagwan” which can be rendered as “God”. “The Son of God” is a Christian title which is not given to Krishna. Krishna is the 8th incarnation of the Hindu God Vishnu.
Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
Krishna is described as sort of a saviour God in the Bhagavad Gita. His followers are saved by faith in him alone (among other things).
The “Hindu trinity” is an invention of Westerns encylopedists. There is a “trimurti” worshipped in Hinduism consisting of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, but it doesn’t play the same prominent role the Trinity does for Christianity. The most important “denominations” in Hinduism worship Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti (the Goddess), respectively.
Both had adoptive human fathers who were carpenters.
Krishna’s foster father Nanda was a cowherd. Krishna grew up in a cowherd village and tended cows as a child.
Jesus was conceived by a god. Krishna was the reincarnation of a god.
Correct.
Both were killed by piercing--Jesus by nails and a spear, Krishna by an arrow.
Correct, but seeing similarities here is a bit of a stretch.
Both resurrected.
The concept of resurrection doesn’t exist in Hinduism. Hindus believe in reincarnation. Krishna died from an arrow and went straight back to his divine abode.
This list is not exhaustive. It would take up too much space to list Jesus' similarities with all the dying/rising gods before him--Zalmoxis, Dionysus, Horus, Mithra, Romulus--who inspired the gospel writers to copy them.
Instead I want to mention a few details of Krishna's birth that convince me Jesus is an amalgamation of many other earlier stories.
Kamsa, the evil king ruling the land hears a voice from the sky predicting that a child will be born and will kill him. The king is terrified. He orders all the children born to his sister, who is the one who will give birth to the child, to be killed.
Kamsa was predicted to be killed by the 8th child of Vasudeva and Devaki. Therefore, he kept his sister and his brother-in-law in prison. Vasudeva and Devaki handed their first seven children over to Kamsa, who killed them. When Krishna was born, he first appeared in his form as Vishnu, who made the gates open and the guards fall asleep. Vasudeva then took the baby Krishna and took it to the cowherd village of Braj, where he gave Krishna to Nanda and Yashoda, who were cowherders. Braj is not a “far-away land” as Vasudeva could reach it on foot. Vasudeva then returned to prison.
It becomes clear that the Jesus story is just another legend based on many earlier legends that were floating around the area at that time.
Probably true. However, the stories of Jesus and Krishna contain certain “tropes” common to storytelling. For example, Luke Skywalker is also a “saviour child” who was taken away from his royal parents and placed with his father's stepbrother, Owen Lars, and his wife Beru, to live a modest life as a “moisture farmer.”
My faith as I understand it forbids me to engage in “quarreling” but given the fact that no other Hindu has taken up the challenge yet, I will try to sort this out.
Yeshua and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
Krishna is called “Bhagavan / Bhagwan” which can be rendered as “God”. “The Son of God” is a Christian title which is not given to Krishna. Krishna is the 8th incarnation of the Hindu God Vishnu.
Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
Krishna is described as sort of a saviour God in the Bhagavad Gita. His followers are saved by faith in him alone (among other things).
The “Hindu trinity” is an invention of Westerns encylopedists. There is a “trimurti” worshipped in Hinduism consisting of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, but it doesn’t play the same prominent role the Trinity does for Christianity. The most important “denominations” in Hinduism worship Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti (the Goddess), respectively.
Both had adoptive human fathers who were carpenters.
Krishna’s foster father Nanda was a cowherd. Krishna grew up in a cowherd village and tended cows as a child.
Jesus was conceived by a god. Krishna was the reincarnation of a god.
Correct.
Both were killed by piercing--Jesus by nails and a spear, Krishna by an arrow.
Correct, but seeing similarities here is a bit of a stretch.
Both resurrected.
The concept of resurrection doesn’t exist in Hinduism. Hindus believe in reincarnation. Krishna died from an arrow and went straight back to his divine abode.
This list is not exhaustive. It would take up too much space to list Jesus' similarities with all the dying/rising gods before him--Zalmoxis, Dionysus, Horus, Mithra, Romulus--who inspired the gospel writers to copy them.
Instead I want to mention a few details of Krishna's birth that convince me Jesus is an amalgamation of many other earlier stories.
Kamsa, the evil king ruling the land hears a voice from the sky predicting that a child will be born and will kill him. The king is terrified. He orders all the children born to his sister, who is the one who will give birth to the child, to be killed.
Kamsa was predicted to be killed by the 8th child of Vasudeva and Devaki. Therefore, he kept his sister and his brother-in-law in prison. Vasudeva and Devaki handed their first seven children over to Kamsa, who killed them. When Krishna was born, he first appeared in his form as Vishnu, who made the gates open and the guards fall asleep. Vasudeva then took the baby Krishna and took it to the cowherd village of Braj, where he gave Krishna to Nanda and Yashoda, who were cowherders. Braj is not a “far-away land” as Vasudeva could reach it on foot. Vasudeva then returned to prison.
It becomes clear that the Jesus story is just another legend based on many earlier legends that were floating around the area at that time.
Probably true. However, the stories of Jesus and Krishna contain certain “tropes” common to storytelling. For example, Luke Skywalker is also a “saviour child” who was taken away from his royal parents and placed with his father's stepbrother, Owen Lars, and his wife Beru, to live a modest life as a “moisture farmer.”
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