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Atheism or No Intelligence Allowed

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Dr. Richard Dawkins in a religious movie [Expelled: No Intelligence
Allowed] said something like this: ``I am atheist because there is no
proof that God exists." I believe it is incomplete, so, let me try to read
between the lines: ``I am atheist because there is no [globally accepted]
proof that God exists and I want to be atheist." Many respectful and valid
theists say: ``I am the theist because I want so, however, there is no
scientific proof for God yet." Richard would demonstrate an un-emotional
reason to be an atheist if he would say: ``I am atheist because there
is [non-debunked] proof that God does not exist."
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Dr. Richard Dawkins in "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" said: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists."

It is not logical. He would demonstrate a reason to be an atheist if he would say:

"I am atheist because there is proof that God does not exist."

Maybe he has not found any proof that he him self can accept as a proof of Gods existance?
Can God be proven 100% by use of scientific ways of proof?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
Dr. Richard Dawkins in "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" said: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists."

It is not logical. He would demonstrate a reason to be an atheist if he would say:

"I am atheist, because there is proof that God does not exist."

Dawkins, by his own words is not atheist
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...doesnt-exist/2012/02/24/gIQA7496XR_story.html


However he is correct in saying that "there is no proof that god exists". If you think that statement is incorrect then please provide evidence
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It is not logical. He would demonstrate a reason to be an atheist if he would say:

"I am atheist because there is proof that God does not exist."
You can't prove a negative.
Such as, you cannot disprove the murderous shadow stalker in your room, watching your every move, waiting until you are at your most comfortable and secure before killing you. You cannot prove that is bullocks and doesn't exist.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Proof of Theism:
1. atheism can be strong or weak. Thus, if the strong atheistic position would be proven illogical, then the weak atheism is illogical too.
2. Strong Atheism is not logical.
3. Thus, theism is proven.
As you maybe know. I am not a strong believer in science or in atheism. But can i prove anyone of them being wrong in one way or the other? Nope i can not.
If Atheists are correct. there is no God to be disproven or proven by science :confused: How would they prove something is not there, or how can science prove something is scientific proven if God is not possible to find or meassure :confused:

How can a believer use science to prove something that can not be proven, except for their own belief and faith in it :oops: That is why i say by using scientific tools God can not be proven (at this point in time, it might happen in the future)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
Proof of Theism:
1. atheism can be strong or weak. Thus, if the strong atheistic position would be proven illogical, then the weak atheism is illogical too.
2. Strong Atheism is not logical.
3. Thus, theism is proven.


Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

That should be proof enough for anyone
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

That should be proof enough for anyone
When an atheist says: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists", he says a lie.
Correct?

The same illogical level: "I am atheist because the sky is blue."
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Proof of Theism:
1. atheism can be strong or weak. Thus, if the strong atheistic position would be proven illogical, then the weak atheism is illogical too.
2. Strong Atheism is not logical.
3. Thus, theism is proven.

The level of illogic in that leads me to this:

1. You may or may not be a human. Thus, if you are not a human, what you post has no meaning and is illogical too..
2. You are human and thus not logical.
3. You don't exist.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
When an atheist says: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists", he says a lie.
Correct?

The same illogical level: "I am atheist because the sky is blue."
It is the Atheists belief because of lack of scientific proof of God that lead them to say it. And it is also why they say to believers. Your belief can not be true because you can not prove it by science that God exists. So where does it lead us by telling each other that they are lying?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Proof of Theism:
1. atheism can be strong or weak. Thus, if the strong atheistic position would be proven illogical, then the weak atheism is illogical too.
2. Strong Atheism is not logical.
3. Thus, theism is proven.

With all due respect. I admire your passion and persistence, but you really ought to find a good book on formal logic and critical thinking.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's My Birthday!
When an atheist says: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists", he says a lie.
Correct?

The same illogical level: "I am atheist because the sky is blue."


Incorrect. If there were proof then your faith would have no need to exist. You have faith therefore there is no proof

The sky is observed to appear blue. Do you have such observation of god? If not your statement is illogical
 
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