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God can do anything. Can He commit suicide? Omnipotent Paradox explained.

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Can God create a stone that He cannot lift?
Answer: no, the Omnipotent One cannot make
such a stone because it is a suicide, and the latter is sin. Any sin is an act of non-existence.
Because sin is emptiness, the absence of
any meaning, the God of Existence and living
does only existent actions. Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin. For example, the tobacco industry produces cancer cases. It serves the evil authorities to depopulate the planet. The satan does not exist in God's objective opinion. The satan is not existent. The satan is the border of our reality, inside satan is Absolute Nothing. It is like a black hole: the hole in our reality. He is there, but he can not be full of life and existence: the sickness is the absence of Health. Thus, sickness does not exist. The satan is absolute sickness.

The question about stone-lifting has hidden meaning, the skeptic asks can God lose divinity, own divine powers. All those Omnipotent Paradox formulations can be put into the question: can God commit suicide? But the answer is no, also because the Christian God is Omnipresent, and so, if He becomes dead in 2021, then He was dead when He was creating the Universe. But that is not possible, because the world exists now. Also because God is not mad and crazy. He is Spirit of Wisdom, mental Health, and Life, and so, can not commit suicide even in principle. He can do only reasonable actions, not the crazy ones. Therefore the German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche with his "God is Dead" must be understood not literally, he was referring to the modern and post-modern apostasy.
 
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McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Can God create a stone that He cannot lift?
Answer: no, the Omnipotent One cannot make
such a stone because it is a suicide, and the latter is sin. Any sin is an act of non-existence.
Because sin is emptiness, the absence of
any meaning, the God of Existence and living
does only existent actions. Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin. For example, the tobacco industry produces cancer cases. It serves the evil authorities to depopulate the planet.

The question about stone-lifting has hidden meaning, the skeptic asks can God lose divinity, own divine powers. All those Omnipotent Paradox formulations can be put into the question: can God commit suicide? But the answer is no, also because the Christian God is Omnipresent, and so, if He becomes dead in 2021, then He was dead when He was creating the Universe. But that is not possible, because the world exists now. Also because God is not mad and crazy. He is Spirit of Wisdom, mental Health, and Life, and so, can not commit suicide even in principle. He can do only reasonable actions, not the crazy ones. Therefore the German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche with his "God is Dead" must be understood not literally, he was referring to the modern and post-modern apostasy.
So you are saying that God can not make a stone that he can not lift because it is suicide which is a sin?
But that The Satan can?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Can God create a stone that He cannot lift?
Answer: no, the Omnipotent One cannot make
such a stone because it is a suicide, and the latter is sin. Any sin is an act of non-existence.
Because sin is emptiness, the absence of
any meaning, the God of Existence and living
does only existent actions. Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin. For example, the tobacco industry produces cancer cases. It serves the evil authorities to depopulate the planet.

The question about stone-lifting has hidden meaning, the skeptic asks can God lose divinity, own divine powers. All those Omnipotent Paradox formulations can be put into the question: can God commit suicide? But the answer is no, also because the Christian God is Omnipresent, and so, if He becomes dead in 2021, then He was dead when He was creating the Universe. But that is not possible, because the world exists now. Also because God is not mad and crazy. He is Spirit of Wisdom, mental Health, and Life, and so, can not commit suicide even in principle. He can do only reasonable actions, not the crazy ones. Therefore the German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche with his "God is Dead" must be understood not literally, he was referring to the modern and post-modern apostasy.
I do not believe that omnipotent means God can do anything, I believe omnipotent means God is All-Powerful.
God can do anything that is within His nature to do but God cannot do anything.

For example:
God cannot become a man because then God would not be God, God would be a man.
God cannot die because God is not subject to death since God is not a mortal creature.
God cannot write scriptures because God is spirit so He does not have hands.
God can send men to write scriptures on His behalf and that is what God does.
God cannot speak because God does not have a mouth since God is not a human.
God can speak through the Holy Spirit which acts as an intermediary between God and His Messengers.
God cannot have a biological son because God is not a biological creature.
God can have a figurative Son as Jesus was to God who was Jesus' figurative Father.
God cannot have biological children because God is not a biological creature.
God can have figurative children as we all are God's figurative children.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
So you are saying that God can not make a stone that he can not lift because it is suicide which is a sin?
But that The Satan can?
The satan does not exist. The satan is not existent. The satan is the border of our reality, inside satan is Absolute Nothing. It is like a black hole: the hole in our reality.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
The satan does not exist. The satan is not existent. The satan is the border of our reality, inside satan is Absolute Nothing. It is like a black hole: the hole in our reality.
Why would you make this claim about an entity that does not exist:

Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin.​
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I do not believe that omnipotent means God can do anything, I believe omnipotent means God is All-Powerful.
God can do anything that is within His nature to do but God cannot do anything.
This is yet another point that theists can not agree on.
What God can and can not do...
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Why would you make this claim about an entity that does not exist:

Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin.​
He is there, but he can not be full of life and existence: the sickness is the absence of Health. Thus, sickness does not exist. The satan is absolute sickness.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
He is there, but he can not be full of life and existence: the sickness is the absence of Health. Thus, sickness does not exist. The satan is absolute sickness.
My beliefs exactly.

“The epitome of this discourse is that it is possible that one thing in relation to another may be evil, and at the same time within the limits of its proper being it may not be evil. Then it is proved that there is no evil in existence; all that God created He created good. This evil is nothingness; so death is the absence of life. When man no longer receives life, he dies. Darkness is the absence of light: when there is no light, there is darkness. Light is an existing thing, but darkness is nonexistent. Wealth is an existing thing, but poverty is nonexisting.

Then it is evident that all evils return to nonexistence. Good exists; evil is nonexistent.”

Some Answered Questions, p. 264

74: THE NONEXISTENCE OF EVIL
 

darkskies

Active Member
The problem is trying to apply logic to infinities. It just doesn't work. If a deity has infinite anything, that is an end to reasoning.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
How are you able to make sense of this in the first place :grimacing:
Seems to me I was not.
I only thought I was until he started being extremely obvious that the words he is using have radically different definitions than what I am familiar with.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Can God create a stone that He cannot lift?
Answer: no, the Omnipotent One cannot make
such a stone because it is a suicide, and the latter is sin. Any sin is an act of non-existence.
Because sin is emptiness, the absence of
any meaning, the God of Existence and living
does only existent actions. Satan, the evil spirit of non-existence and death, does the non-existent actions only: he is the father of sin. For example, the tobacco industry produces cancer cases. It serves the evil authorities to depopulate the planet. The satan does not exist in God's objective opinion. The satan is not existent. The satan is the border of our reality, inside satan is Absolute Nothing. It is like a black hole: the hole in our reality. He is there, but he can not be full of life and existence: the sickness is the absence of Health. Thus, sickness does not exist. The satan is absolute sickness.

The question about stone-lifting has hidden meaning, the skeptic asks can God lose divinity, own divine powers. All those Omnipotent Paradox formulations can be put into the question: can God commit suicide? But the answer is no, also because the Christian God is Omnipresent, and so, if He becomes dead in 2021, then He was dead when He was creating the Universe. But that is not possible, because the world exists now. Also because God is not mad and crazy. He is Spirit of Wisdom, mental Health, and Life, and so, can not commit suicide even in principle. He can do only reasonable actions, not the crazy ones. Therefore the German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche with his "God is Dead" must be understood not literally, he was referring to the modern and post-modern apostasy.
Have you got a source for all that you have tried to teach us?

The bible clearly shows that sin is breaking the laws of Moses. Each law (apart from sacrificial/ceremonial ones was written to increase the strength, health, success, wellbeing and cohesion of the Israelites.

That's it! Sin just reduces or ends those benefits.

Sin leads to Sickness., etc

Nothing else. Christianity gets that so wrong.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
God can do anything. Can He commit suicide?

Depends on your definition of God
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Suicide only appears in transactional reality. So as I see it, God can commit suicide in transactional reality as a result of ignorance of his nature...ignorance of being God. This is evidenced with each human that takes their own life. However, God cannot commit suicide in full awareness of its own being.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The question about stone-lifting has hidden meaning, the skeptic asks can God lose divinity, own divine powers.
some time ago....someone posted a scenario portraited by actors

God as the old gray haired figure of renoun
and the devil as a gun slinger

somehow the devil got the drop on the Old Guy
and shot Him

then took God's throne as if that item contained the power of creation
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Suicide only appears in transactional reality. So as I see it, God can commit suicide in transactional reality as a result of ignorance of his nature...ignorance of being God. This is evidenced with each human that takes their own life. However, God cannot commit suicide in full awareness of its own being.
yeah .....does seem the paradox

the First to say.....I AM!
would be able to say.....I AM NOT!
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Can God create a stone that He cannot lift?
Answer: no,...

Sorry, I disagree with that, I believe God could do that. And, if He later would want to lift it, He could create more power to Him so that He could lift it.

I think even suicide would be possible for God. However, I agree with you in that it would not be reasonable and I don't think God would do it.
 
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