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Alexei Navalny Calls Mass Protests in His Honor the 'Salvation of Russia'

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Putin is an incredible leader. He goes forth as if he were the embodiment of Russia itself. I envy his country’s leadership, at the moment, for they have a great deal to be proud of.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Putin is an incredible leader. He goes forth as if he were the embodiment of Russia itself. I envy his country’s leadership, at the moment, for they have a great deal to be proud of.
Like Trump - an inspiration to the rest of the world - where lies and deceit rule, and where Putin's thugs are so easily found out in their noxious ways. Pride? What are you on! :rolleyes: I'd rather have leaders who displayed how to behave (setting examples) than to do such simply because they could. :(
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Brave man, Alexei Navalny, I’ll certainly give him that.

Not entirely sure Russia needs another leader who labels himself the country’s saviour; they’ve already got one of those in the Kremlin. Not sure we in the West know what’s best for that country either. I would be wary of anyone in either America or Europe claiming to have the answers. Attempts to export democracy have rarely gone well in the past.

I wish the Russian people well, and hope they do get a fairer, freer future. I wish the American people the same, God knows both nations have their problems. As do we in Europe.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Putin is an incredible leader. He goes forth as if he were the embodiment of Russia itself. I envy his country’s leadership, at the moment, for they have a great deal to be proud of.
Putin is definitly unique as a leader. Charismatic, physically active, and quite popular among his countrymen.

I see him as one trying to unify Russia to a prominence that the old USSR possessed in its heyday.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Putin is definitly unique as a leader. Charismatic, physically active, and quite popular among his countrymen.

I see him as one trying to unify Russia to a prominence that the old USSR possessed in its heyday.


That’s pretty much exactly how he wants to be seen. So his PR department’s working.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Brave man, Alexei Navalny, I’ll certainly give him that.

Not entirely sure Russia needs another leader who labels himself the country’s saviour; they’ve already got one of those in the Kremlin. Not sure we in the West know what’s best for that country either. I would be wary of anyone in either America or Europe claiming to have the answers. Attempts to export democracy have rarely gone well in the past.

I wish the Russian people well, and hope they do get a fairer, freer future. I wish the American people the same, God knows both nations have their problems. As do we in Europe.
It's probably going to get ugly in Russia if Putin puts more pressure on the opposition. It depends on how things are for the average Russian citizen. If there are enough people in financial distress then they will have little to lose by protesting.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That’s pretty much exactly how he wants to be seen. So his PR department’s working.
I kind of place him where he saw his country break apart and set out with a mindset of reunification in mind.

If that happened again in the US there's no doubt we would be massing troops on our own/former borders as well.

I wouldn't want to see communism in Russia again, but I do see where Putin is coming from in context of how the US broke apart in its own way during the Civil War.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
I kind of place him where he saw his country break apart and set out with a mindset of reunification in mind.

If that happened again in the US there's no doubt we would be massing troops on our own/former borders as well.

I wouldn't want to see communism in Russia again, but I do see where Putin is coming from in context of how the US broke apart in its own way during the Civil War.


Yeah, I think he started out with the best interests of his country at heart. Many Russians saw him in exactly the light you describe, for quite a long time.

Trouble is, he’s become a despot, and like all despots, he appears incapable of distinguishing between his personal interests and those of his country.

Alexander III, Nicholas II, Stalin, all thought that they were Russia, the living embodiment of the Russian people. They all loved Russia, but they all expected - no, demanded - to be loved back. And heaven help anyone who didn’t show enough love to the leadership. Putin’s the same I think. He’s also undeniably corrupt, even if he wasn’t always that way.

Has the US ever really healed itself since the Civil War btw? That’s a genuine question, I’m not trying to point any fingers.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
It's probably going to get ugly in Russia if Putin puts more pressure on the opposition. It depends on how things are for the average Russian citizen. If there are enough people in financial distress then they will have little to lose by protesting.


I think there are an awful lot of people with nothing to lose. Huge swathes of the Russian population appear to be living in desperate circumstances. But then, thats been the case for centuries.

History has not been particularly kind to Holy Mother Russia. They’re due a break, I think.
 
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