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The Future of Religion

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Eventually, atheism will win, but it will be centuries before that happens.
Eventually, everyone will believe in God, but it will be centuries before that happens.

Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Isaiah 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

“The Day is approaching when God will render the hosts of Truth victorious, and He will purge the whole earth in such wise that within the compass of His knowledge not a single soul shall remain unless he truly believeth in God, worshippeth none other God but Him, boweth down by day and by night in His adoration, and is reckoned among such as are well assured.”
Selections From the Writings of the Báb, pp. 153-154
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
What that indicates is that the Messenger of God who revealed those religions did not make a Covenant with His followers, so the followers had no continued guidance after the Messenger died, and as a result they went every which way and split off into many factions. Another reason for the many factions is because there was no appointed interpreter so they disagreed as to what the scriptures meant.

That is not a problem in the Baha'i Faith because Baha'u'llah had a written Covenant spelling everything out so there would not be any disagreements between the Baha'is after He died, and there would be no question as to where the authority would reside within the Faith. One central authority has prevented the Baha'i Faith from splitting off into factions as happened with all the other religions. Baha'u'llah also appointed interpreters of His Writings so that there would be no question as to what they meant.

Bahá’u’lláh and His Covenant

It has been written that the reason there was no written Covenant in the older religions is because the followers were not spiritually advanced enough to keep a Covenant.
You can have as many explanations as you like but if confusion was the aim then such methods have succeeded splendidly.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
To me, this is where Jesus, his teachings, enters into the picture because Jesus was Not just any human messenger but God's Son whose imparting messages for us match from the old Hebrew Scriptures.
Only to those who believe such though - and just the same for any other prophet for many I suspect. It all boils down to how much belief one has in written texts, and where so many of us just don't have this - based on what was around then, and often regardless of what is in the text.
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Eventually, everyone will believe in God, but it will be centuries before that happens.

Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Isaiah 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

“The Day is approaching when God will render the hosts of Truth victorious, and He will purge the whole earth in such wise that within the compass of His knowledge not a single soul shall remain unless he truly believeth in God, worshippeth none other God but Him, boweth down by day and by night in His adoration, and is reckoned among such as are well assured.”
Selections From the Writings of the Báb, pp. 153-154
But any religion might say such.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis / saints of the later day come, propagate their own brand of religion which they sell as 'the only true religion' and confuse people. People are finally going to dump them all and turn to reality that there is no God or Allah.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Confusion was not the aim of God even thought that resulted.
That speaks highly of your God. The aim of God was not to create confusion but that is what happened when he sent prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis to the world. God cannot even do what he intends to do and falters. It is a failed God. If it was real, it sure is a funny God.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
That speaks highly of your God. The aim of God was not to create confusion but that is what happened when he sent prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis to the world. God cannot even do what he intends to do and falters. It is a failed God. If it was real, it sure is a funny God.
The aim of God was not to create confusion but that is what happened when he sent prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis to the world. God does exactly what he intends to do and humans falter and create confusion by messing with the scriptures and insisting their messenger is the only true one, yada yada yada. That speaks highly of my God. It humans that fail.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Human idea of self lost. Natural origins.

Spiritual human parents. The same equal sister and brother unity all humans since began with. First mutual same life. Same DNA. True mutual cause equality.

Natural.

Given away to unhealthy science practices that enforced religious idealism as a strategy to bring humanity back to natural life unity and family.

Caring nurturing self and planetary survival.

Religion was also used historic to manipulate coercive self gains as a status.

Human behaviour in the group. Feared.

Human family are owned as our elders. Who today represent each separated human family group who express self idealism by country and DNA status.

That will never be overcome as expressed self mutual relevance about self known survival is first with the unique owned human DNA self.

Religion or science status does not support natural conscious important self identity. Human first not organisation.

Humans will always argue if one organisation tries to enforce status.

The conscious teaching for humans stated confusion was caused by DNA changed and language changed.

We can implement a common language but we cannot heal human body DNA separation status. Which is personally expressed as important.

Reason natural life not organisation existed first.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
They certainly might, especially if the religion is Judaism or Christianity, since those verses were recorded in their scriptures. :D
Well that is the defence for my non-beliefs - that if one was to analyse most of the major religions, they tend to be predictable as to the written content (much confirming the basis for such a belief), and what they predict for the faithful and for non-believers, and such is better explained by these religions coming from humans than from any divine source it seems to me. Why wouldn't any religion want to keep the maximum number of believers and to punish those who were opposed to it? On the other hand, if any religion was actually just reflecting the truth, why would it do any of this when the truth would surely be recognised by all - even if such took some time. No faith perhaps?
 

Marcion

gopa of humanity's controversial Taraka Brahma
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What is in store for the future of Religion? What will help it stay relevant?
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There is no real future for religion, but there is a promising future for universal forms of spiritual practice.

Every spiritual or religious path is a combination of vedic and tantric practices. The tantric practices are the effective ones that effectively clear the aspirant of their karmic load. The vedic ones are much less effective.

The more tantric a path is, the more it helps the practitioner advance spiritually.
So religion only has a future if it becomes more tantric and starts leaving out the irrational and the superstitious beliefs and practices. This means that what we now call religions will eventually be replaced by non-dogmatic spiritual cults with plenty of tantric practices and much less vedic stuff.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Don't you do the same insisting that your uneducated 19th Century Iranian preacher has the latest from Allah (and do not acknowledge Mirza Ghulam Ahmad)?
I do not acknowledge Mirza Ghulam Ahmad because I believe he is a false prophet, making claims that are not true.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
So God was neither omniscient nor could predict the future - just using a starting gun (to creation and evolution) and hoping for the best?
God is omniscient and can predict the future. God has always known what humans would do, so He did not have to hope.

Confusion was not the aim of God but confusion resulted because humans were confused. That was not God's doing or God's fault.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Why wouldn't any religion want to keep the maximum number of believers and to punish those who were opposed to it?
A true religion does not rely upon having the maximum number of believers and it does not need to punish anyone who is opposed to it.
On the other hand, if any religion was actually just reflecting the truth, why would it do any of this when the truth would surely be recognised by all - even if such took some time. No faith perhaps?
The Baha'i Faith does not care about having the maximum number of believers because we know that eventually the Faith will be recognized by everyone. We know that because that is what Baha'u'llah wrote and we have complete faith in Baha'u'llah.

“Warn and acquaint the people, O Servant, with the things We have sent down unto Thee, and let the fear of no one dismay Thee, and be Thou not of them that waver. The day is approaching when God will have exalted His Cause and magnified His testimony in the eyes of all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 248
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That is what Christians who believe they are the true Christians say about the Christians they do not believe are true Christians.
Since most Christians say they are the true Christians, how is an onlooker like me supposed to know who the true Christians are?
Jesus said to recognize by the fruits (behavior) they produce - Matthew chapter 7.
Preachers are supposed to pull the weed/tares out of the Flock of God.
If Not fully out then the weed/tares grow back.
Jesus set up No paid clergy, but to teach for free.
Wack-a-doodle preachers are 'paid' to pull the weed/tares out of the congregation.
Not paid to pull just 1/2 of the weed/tares, thus they show themselves to be untrustworthy.

Then, there are the English words 'hell' or 'hell fire'.
False clergy use ' fire ' as a scare tactic to try to control the Flock of God.
The word Hell Fire wrongly comes from the word Gehenna.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit where things were: destroyed.
So, Hell Fire really stands for: destruction.
That is why Scripture teaches the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' Not roasted forever.(Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35)
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Eventually, atheism will win, but it will be centuries before that happens.
I would say you are right ' if ' No religion was right.
The Bible forewarns us that the powers that now be will be saying, " Peace and Security...." but that rosy-looking time will just be the precursor to the coming great tribulation climaxing in Armageddon ( the war to end all ears - Psalms 46:9)
Thus, what is recorded in the Bible will WIN, and it is Not centuries away, Not even a decade away before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will be the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
 
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