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Japan decides to dump tons of radioactive water into the Pacific

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?

Do you have a link to somewhere that we can read more information about this story?
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?
What is your proposal for disposing the water in question?
I am curious mainly because if nothing is done about it then here in August it will be overflowing their storage tanks and leaking into the ground.
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What is your proposal for disposing the water in question?
I am curious mainly because if nothing is done about it then here in August it will be overflowing their storage tanks and leaking into the ground.

The tsunami was 10 years ago. They didn't have time to build more tanks? For me, either increase the storage capacity or find a way to clean the water. Of course, dump it into the ocean is cheaper in the short term. In the long term not so much, but politicians don't do long term anyway.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?

The term "harmless contaminated" seems like an oxymoron to me.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Apparently China is not happy either, as are all of the local fishermen. Frankly I think it is highly irresponsible.

Japan aren't the most responsible people in the world when it comes to the sea. They kill sharks just for their fins and kill whales just for their oil.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
The tsunami was 10 years ago. They didn't have time to build more tanks?
I do not know.

In the long term not so much, but politicians don't do long term anyway.
Source?

From what I have read the science and scientists agree that it will have a minimal impact based upon the slow multi-decade release plan.
What numbers do you have that say otherwise?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?
I'm guessing maybe the radiation is at a low enough level?
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
From what I have read the science and scientists agree that it will have a minimal impact based upon the slow multi-decade release plan.
What numbers do you have that say otherwise?

I don't have numbers, what I have is a great deal of suspicion when things don't make sense. Given the track record of politicians and the fact that some scientists can be bought, I think I might have a point.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I'm guessing maybe the radiation is at a low enough level?
Well, according to The International Atomic Energy Agency the water to be released into the ocean meets or exceeds the minamum standard to be released.
According to local officials and fishing crews, it is a bad idea.

I am still waiting to see some numbers about it.

Seeing as "Nuclear power plants around the world routinely discharge treated wastewater containing tritium into the sea" with IAEA approval...
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I don't have numbers, what I have is a great deal of suspicion when things don't make sense. Given the track record of politicians and the fact that some scientists can be bought, I think I might have a point.
So basically, you are merely jumping on a bandwagon without knowing any of the actual details?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?
Probably because the IAEA is run by scientists.;)

I'm sure this will be all about dilution. What makes you think this water will endanger all sorts of life forms? You can't say that without knowing its composition and the way in which it will be dispersed.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?


"TEPCO says the wastewater has been treated to remove most of the radioactivity. However, tritium — a radioactive hydrogen isotope — remains."

What its tritium...


How dangerous is tritium...

Tritium does not have chemically toxic effects and its potential to be hazardous to human health is solely because it emits ionizing radiation (the beta particle). This radiation exposure may very slightly increase the probability that a person will develop cancer during his or her lifetime.
This has been ongoing for a while, with a lot of protests from many concerned people, but now it seems it's final. Japan is going to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the Pacific.
Apparently the International Atomic Energy Agency gave the ok. They say it's mostly harmless contaminated water. For me this is the equivalent of saying mostly harmless bullet in case someone shoots you.
If this water doesn't represent any danger, why is Japan throwing it away? Clean water can be distributed to the population, for cleaning, watering fields, showers, etc, right? If it's indeed contaminated, how did the IAEA give it the ok to be thrown to the ocean where it will endanger all sorts of life forms, including ours?
Millions of people in the pacific region depend on fishing to feed their families. What's going to happen to them if this water is not as "harmless" as claimed?

Here's the story from September 2019.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.amp...3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s


More than 1 million tonnes of contaminated water has accumulated at the plant since it was struck by a tsunami in March 2011, triggering a triple meltdown that forced the evacuation of tens of thousands of residents.

Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) has struggled to deal with the buildup of groundwater, which becomes contaminated when it mixes with water used to prevent the three damaged reactor cores from melting.
 
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