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How can the Jew reject, Jesus, Muhammad, Bab and Baha'u'llah?

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
When you say "God" here ^^, do you mean "Jesus"?

Jesus is the second person in the Godhead. The concept of the Trinity existed in ancient Jewish culture,even though it wasn't in as much detail as in the New Testament. The Bible is there to make up wise unto salvation. It's not there to mention every detail there is on everything. It can't, it's a limited book. Is Jesus Christ The Angel of The Lord? – Finding Christ In The Old Testament

Who did Moses see in the burning bush? It was Jesus Christ.

Is Jesus The Angel of The Lord? Does Jesus Christ Appear In The Old Testament? What Was Jesus Doing During Old Testament Times?- A Biblical Study

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. – Jesus Christ, John 5:39.

When Jesus Christ made the statement above, the “scriptures” at the time consisted solely of the Old Testament. And it raises a question that is often asked in the church – where is Jesus Christ in The Old Testament? Was Jesus sitting in Heaven just observing the world during the time of the Old Testament or was He actively interacting with humanity and appearing all throughout the Scriptures? This article will show that Jesus Christ indeed appears throughout the Old Testament and that the concept of God existing in more than one person was well-understood in ancient Jewish culture. And the mysterious Angel of The Lord, featured in the Old Testament, is indeed the Savior, Jesus Christ.

The Testimony of Jesus Christ Himself




The Book of John provides the answer all on its own.

No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. – John 1:18.



Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. – John 6:46.



These two verses alone provide compelling Biblical evidence that Jesus Christ physically appears in the Old Testament. In both verses above The Lord Jesus Christ quite clearly states that no man has ever seen God The Father except for Him. Thus it would automatically follow that any physical appearance by God in the Old Testament was not God the Father and thus was The Son, Jesus Himself.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Jesus died for our sins, not God the Father or the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Son of God is a reference to His Sonship in the Trinity.
OK.
I believe that God incarnated to die for the sins of the world, because the price had to be died. I believe that God died for every single person. Without God dying for our sins, God taking our place would have no meaning.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, what you're saying is:

"I believe that [Jesus had] to die for the sins of the world, because the price had to be [paid]. I believe that [Jesus] died for every single person. Without [Jesus] dying for our sins, [Jesus] taking our place would have no meaning."​

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Skywalker

Well-Known Member
OK.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, what you're saying is:

"I believe that [Jesus had] to die for the sins of the world, because the price had to be [paid]. I believe that [Jesus] died for every single person. Without [Jesus] dying for our sins, [Jesus] taking our place would have no meaning."​

??

If Jesus didn't suffer on the cross, what he did wouldn't have had any meaning. For Jesus to take our place, a price for our sin had to paid. Jesus died for our sins because he didn't want us to have to make the payment.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If Jesus didn't suffer on the cross, what he did wouldn't have had any meaning. For Jesus to take our place, a price for our sin had to paid. Jesus died for our sins because he didn't want us to have to make the payment.

This can also be seen in the Message given by the Bab, the life of Jesus and the Bab are remarkable in simular events, except the Bab was persecuted for 6 years, not 3 years prior to being sentenced and put to death.

The Bab sacrafice was so that Humanity may recognise the "One whom God would make Maifest."

The salvation of humanity is now a global consciousness and it is our oneness that redemption now resides. The Oneness of God is also confirmed.

Personal salvation is not possible without global vision and action.

Regards Tony
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Reason #2 – Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles – It started at the beginning of the Baha'i Revelation
But it didn't finish with the Baha'i'ullah, therefore he isn't the messiah.

[/quote]Reason #3– Rebuilding of the Holy Temple – Baha'u'llah said that Temple is the Self of God.[/quote]But that's not the temple spoken of by the Jewish prophets, therefore he is not the messiah.

and on and on...
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But it didn't finish with the Baha'i'ullah, therefore he isn't the messiah.
Reason #3– Rebuilding of the Holy Temple – Baha'u'llah said that Temple is the Self of God.[/quote]But that's not the temple spoken of by the Jewish prophets, therefore he is not the messiah.

and on and on...[/QUOTE]

That's great, that is what Faith is all about.

I hope you are well and happy and may your life be full of meaning founded in G_d's purpose for all humanity.

Regards Tony
 
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