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George Floyd is bigger than Jesus here! And an Online Shrine to the loving dead!

Spiderman

Veteran Member
The Youtube is just here for me to listen to some good music about the eternity of the soul while proof reading the thread. If you can think of a better song for my online Shrine. Please share it. I'll be enshrining more than just Saint George.

Okay, so for guests, I'm from the Twin Cities. We have "George Floyd square" and have named streets after George Floyd. I would guess most of the structures I see have something related to George Floyd on them. The national guard couldn't stop most of the business from getting vandalized, looted, or burned to the ground on University ave when the scandal first hit.

I actually had Youtube's of me legally going inside the buildings as a volunteer , to sweep up the glass and board up window openings. It brought the whole community together. That Youtube channel sadly got terminated due to not being politically correct.

(if you have a Youtube Channel, never condemn the genocide in South Africa, never speak against peaceful protests, and never point out the verses in the Qur'an that are calls to terrorism. That's three strikes and you're out!)

Anyhow, I think we should change the name of Minneapolis to Saint George, because it's connected to Saint Paul. That would be cool.

We have over 1200 people that died enshrined as statues or their names carved into granite on Capitol Hill, but I'm like the only guy that pays homage to them regularly, but George Floyd memorials draw more people in the Twin Cities than gatherings in honor of all the other heroes combined.

He's bigger than Jesus Christ in the Twin Cities in the sense and context of how I say it (that you don't see vehicles driving with stained glass windows of Jesus, but you do see stained glass windows of George Floyd in vehicles here).

You also don't have Jesus's face on every street corner and about 60% of businesses , stores, and restaurants that I have seen (I haven't seen most of the Twin Cities though, just frequent University ave where the train runs mainly and a few stores elsewhere, and sometimes Minneapolis to attend Legion of Mary groups).

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Even Saints that got tortured to death for their faith during persecutions didn't receive this kind of attention that I know of. I highly doubt it. Some of them were killed by police even in the 20th century dragged by the millions, even dragged out into the streets by the KGB naked in the middle of winter , and water poured over them until they froze solid.

Some of the worst tortures I've ever heard of were done by Russian police to Christians, like cutting off the hands of priests so they couldn't celebrate mass still makes me shudder (for those who haven't heard me say that before) shouting "Where is your God" and forcing them to attend black masses and eat disgusting things for holy Communion. There wasn't worldwide protests or big shrines erected to any of them that I know of .


People aren't just protesting. It's become veneration that is beyond veneration. What Twin Cities has become is George Floyd Mysticism , and I'm not complaining either, it's kinda cool, but it would make any Emperor jealous, because people are putting Saint George everywhere by their own free will, where in an Imperial dynasty, images of the Emperor or Dictator, are often not painted and drawn by volunteers, and sometimes (often times) the images are forced to be there, and I doubt they Deify them to the extent George is Deified.

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This should be renamed Georgetown. I'm gonna start calling this "The miracle of George Floyd".

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The Twin Cities have literally become one great big Shrine to King George! And Yes, he's bigger than Jesus! You get caught vandalizing and spray painting hate on a statue to Jesus and it's a petty misdemeanor. Try vandalizing or spray painting hate on a shrine to George and your punishment will be worse than people who actually tortured Junko Furuta to death (with the worse tortures I've read about. Most walked away free).

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George Floyd , God bless his soul, had to suffer for 9 minutes. Junko Furuta, who I'm probably the only one on earth who treats like she's a Saint, doesn't get any homage probably and little justice. She was raped by over a hundred men over 44 days of the worst tortures I've read about outside of a Communist concentration camp, who practically all get to walk free.

The one who actually got the worst charge, only got 20 years, and I'm the only one I've met who cares. If someone (even if they weren't police but a hate group) had done similar things to Floyd , it would be world war 3 if the primary culprit got 20 years.

She had the most barbaric , cruel, humiliating tortures , burnings, lacerations, electrocutions, hangings, beatings, so that she was vomiting up everything she was forced to drink and eat (some of it not even edible). Granted, it wasn't done by police, but still, even when Communist police did equally horrifying things

(I mention Communists because they got a slap on the wrist for it , and were worse than anyone. There are groups allied with black lives matter , who wave hammer and sickle flags in America, and promote Communism, which killed more than 15 times as many people as Jews killed during the Holocaust , and continue to rob over a billion people of basic rights. I have extreme problems with that, as should anyone with a conscience. I'm all for equality and ending racism. I'm not against the George Floyd Memorials either.)

Junko Furuta was a straight-A student who didn't do drugs, party, (or anything probably the Virgin Mary wouldn't do). George Floyd, I love him, was a lesser criminal than myself, but He was arrested 9 times, a drug user, and a theif.

I'm not opposed to all our shrines to him. I'm just saying, there are other heroes we could be paying homage to.

But rest in peace George! I would enshrine you as well in my Honden, but I only enshrine victims that aren't enshrined Kami (who don't have streets and squares named after them). I love you though. Justice for George Floyd! Long live King George! And God bless him!

This is the journal section because I'm going to start some online shrines to some others as well in other posts. But feel free to debate if you like. Do you agree with the was we are paying homage to George? Memorials are one thing. This is beyond memorials. I've been to Fatima Portugal where Mary worked the miracle of the Sun before a crowd of 70,000 people and spoke of the rise of Communism and coming of world war 2 in advance.

Other than the Shrine to her at the location of the apparitions, you don't see images of her throughout the town, and paintings or pictures of her on most of the businesses, stores, and resturants, or statements about her everywhere. I'm assuming we have more candles here burning before images of George Floyd and flowers for George , than Mary, Jesus, and all Saints and Gods combined.

Is that okay in your opinion? I say we start enshrining other heroes with the same fervor, not necessarily condemning the practice.
 
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Spiderman

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I actually live in the Ghetto, and my friends are black, and I think black lives matter. On the outside of my apartment I actually have enshrined however, a black person who lived a Heroic life. George Floyd did not live a virtuous life.

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To give us all a real black hero to admire besides George Floyd or Tupac.

I also have enshrined Malcom X because he was extremely courageous and became a very good person towards the end of his life.


Next to him is Victor Frankl and Franz Werfel, two Jews I admire very much who were victims of the Holocaust. My only room in my apartment that I keep clean and organized is dedicated mainly to Victims of the Holocaust.

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Most of the Kami (Spirits) I pray to and enshrine happen to be ethnic minorities , and my Religion I practice is Japanese Shinto plus the Religion of Ancient Egypt, for those of you that think the OP is racist or something.

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PureX

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It's not about George Floyd, particularly. It's about what and who he represents: the many thousands of victims of inappropriate police violence.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member

Justice for Junko Furuta! She represents those tortured to death, whose killers get to endanger the community again by getting a rather light sentence. Google about the 44 days of hell she endured at your own risk.

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I declare that at least in my world, thou art Amaterasu Incarnate and Virgin Mary of "Queens Shinto" (In comics, Spiderman is from "Queens". Spiders represent "Divine femininity", hence Spiderman's prayers to "Queens of Heaven". For newbies, I collect spiders so people nicknamed me Spiderman. The catch phrase of the Spiderman-inventor was "Excelsior", and Bundy's first victim was Elizabeth Perry, from Twin Cities (where I live) suburb called "Excelsior".

All happened by chance I'm sure, and Bundy's original initials were TC and people where I live where TC hats and shirts for "Twin Cities Twins".

Upon the light of the Sun I shall build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it but open, welcome, and be obedient.

Junko, I give you Saint Peter Parker's keys of to the Holy Roman Empire of the Sun! Empire of the Queens of Heaven! what you bind shall be bound, what you loose shall be loosed. May all things, creatures, spirits, Kami, and planets, do only what pleaseth thee! In Jesus name!

Junko is the Incarnate Divinity of the Sun in my Religion, and upon the Sun, all things must depend on for survival.

She is also Lia Michelle Mussolini (Means Israel or Jacob. The three surnames meaning are all Jacob, meaning "to remove from power and replace"). The Irish definition of Lia is "Light of the Sun", name of the first spouse of Jacob (Man who fought with God all night and won) whom the Messiah descended from, which in Latin means Lioness ( Lioness was the symbol of the original Queen of Heaven). Lia is the oldest documented female name of Assyria. One source says 30,000 years old. In ancient Assyrian, Lia means "Woman in position of authority". Maybe she got me my Jacket of the rising sun IMG_20210319_213640.jpg and circular mirror on Japan day.

She died "Joker day" (4th) just days before my favorite Emperor Hirohito (descendant of Amaterasu, longest reigning Emperor whom I owe allegiance to) died in 1989.

It was also the year and month justice was done for Saint George Hawkins , when her killer (Ted Bundy) was executed finally.

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Junko means "Pure obedient child". Junko Amaterasu, let it not be coincidence that you died less than five days before the death of my favorite Shinto priest and politician as well as favorite Shinto Kami that we can actually prove existed.

May it be that you are Empress Showa (posthumous title of Hirohito) of one-world Religion: UN Shinto, for Shinto has no inerrant Scriptures, no known founder, and only one Doctrine: Supernatural entities exist. Meaning, it could have been God who founded Shinto, and Shinto doesn't contradict any Religion that isn't atheist, so Shinto can be the state Religion of every nation and bring all Religions together.

The official Religion of the UN. Let it be Amaterasu!

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Get me sane and sober , and I'll give you a following, a shrine, and move your remains to a Mausoleum.

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And may there be a most glorious Honden for your Spirit to dwell, and home for the Spirits (Kami) of those who have had to endure such tortures, where they can find rest and euphoria.

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For newcomers, A Honden is a structure for enshrined Kami (Spirits) , closed off to the public, like the Old Testament Holy of Holies, that only a priest may enter on very rare occasions to burn incense, leave a flower offering, or a Goshintai (charged blessed relic).

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Spiderman

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It's not about George Floyd, particularly. It's about what and who he represents: the many thousands of victims of inappropriate police violence.

You make a very good point, but there were law abiding victims of torture and murder at the hands of police who were found innocent. I'm just saying that they could better represent the victims.

I'm saying there are far better examples to represent victims of police brutality, innocent ones as well, who suffered longer.

Also, here in the Twin Cities, he is a hero and venerated with a greater veneration than most Catholics venerate their Saints.

I don't see any Victims of Communism representing all the victims of Communist brutality, (which claimed the lives of over a hundred million people, and currently robs over a billion people of basic rights, with a slap on the wrist or no consequence whatsoever).
 

PureX

Veteran Member
You make a very good point, but there were law abiding victims of torture and murder at the hands of police who were found innocent. I'm just saying that they could better represent the victims.

I'm saying there are far better examples to represent victims of police brutality, innocent ones as well, who suffered longer.

Also, here in the Twin Cities, he is a hero and venerated with a greater veneration than most Catholics venerate their Saints.

I don't see any Victims of Communism representing all the victims of Communist brutality, (which claimed the lives of over a hundred million people, and currently robs over a billion people of basic rights, with a slap on the wrist or no consequence whatsoever).
But this one everyone SAW. That's the difference.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
And lets see if anyone represents the victims of Communism like that.


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Between the months of January and August of 1945, Germany saw the largest incident of mass rape known in history, where an estimated two million German women were raped by the Soviet Red Army soldiers, as written by Walter Zapotoczny Jr. in his book, ‘Beyond Duty: The Reason Some Soldiers Commit Atrocities’.

Hospital reports also stated that abortion operations were being carried out daily across all German hospitals.

Natalya Gesse, who was a Soviet war correspondent at the time, said that the Soviets didn’t care about the ages of their victims. “The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to eighty. It was an army of rapists,” she said.

This caused the deaths of no less than 200,000 girls and women due to the spread of diseases, especially that many eyewitnesses recounted victims being raped as much as 70 times in that period.

In his book, Zapotoczny said that even female Russian soldiers did not disapprove of the rapes, some finding it amusing.
How German Women Suffered Largest Mass Rape in History by Soviets

Granted Germany was terrible, but the Soviet Union had a far higher kill-count with worse tortures, and they didn't get a slap on the wrist.

Chinese government executed over 60 million people in the 20th century and committed genocide against sparrows. The Chinese burn incense to Mao, the biggest mass murderer in history, to this day. His images are everywhere in China and the government teaches that he was a great guy.

Cambodia killed up to half their people.

Yet history books didn't cover any of that when I was growing up.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
We in the U.S. can't do ANYTHING about the abuses of communism in the last century (or in any). Why are you even bringing it up? Why focus on problems that we can do nothing about and ignore problems right here and right now, that we can?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
We in the U.S. can't do ANYTHING about the abuses of communism in the last century (or in any). Why are you even bringing it up? Why focus on problems that we can do nothing about and ignore problems right here and right now, that we can?
Thing is, George Floyd sparked protests and memorials worldwide.

I'm questioning what exactly has caused this to blow up like it has when police do worse things every day.

I'm not saying we should minimize it.

But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected.

That does make me wonder.

Also, more black babies are killed in New York than there are born ( through abortion), which I would think a group that says "Black lives Matter" would comment on, since they believe those lives must matter as well (I would think).

Founder of planned parenthood was openly racist and the organization targets black people. Where's even a comment from black lives matter on that. Just saying.

And I'm all for women having safe , legal abortion , legal for them rather than the trauma and grief of an unwanted child. I'm just pointing out an inconsistency and double standard and hypocrisy I'm seeing.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Thing is, George Floyd sparked protests and memorials worldwide.

I'm questioning what exactly has caused this to blow up like it has when police do worse things every day.

I'm not saying we should minimize it.

But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected.

That does make me wonder.

Also, more black babies are killed in New York than there are born ( through abortion), which I would think a group that says "Black lives Matter" would comment on, since they believe those lives must matter as well (I would think).

Founder of planned parenthood was openly racist and the organization targets black people. Where's even a comment from black lives matter on that. Just saying.

And I'm all for women having safe , legal abortion , legal for them rather than the trauma and grief of an unwanted child. I'm just pointing out an inconsistency and double standard and hypocrisy I'm seeing.
I understand that it does seem hypocritical and even demoralising to have to have a spark to ignite change. But sometimes a community just becomes numb to abuses over time. There have been several marches over the years to call for equal rights and demands to be treated as human. George Floyd inspired BLM movements are just the latest call for justice. Is this right? No, it should be a given that all are treated equally. But that is not reality. Hopefully this latest movement can enact change, however small. So the next generation has better ground work to pick themselves off from. I know that’s a bit bleak. But I’m just trying to be realistic
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I understand that it does seem hypocritical and even demoralising to have to have a spark to ignite change. But sometimes a community just becomes numb to abuses over time. There have been several marches over the years to call for equal rights and demands to be treated as human. George Floyd inspired BLM movements are just the latest call for justice. Is this right? No, it should be a given that all are treated equally. But that is not reality. Hopefully this latest movement can enact change, however small. So the next generation has better ground work to pick themselves off from. I know that’s a bit bleak. But I’m just trying to be realistic
With all due respect to the African Community though, do you think police have more reason to profile them (on average)? I mean, I live in a black neighborhood and I've lived in non black neighborhoods. The crime rate and behavior is way different.

That doesn't make one ethnicity is better. There is a remnant of good people in every ethnicity (which the human race is on average disgusting in my opinion, so there is no ethnicity that is good, but there are good people in each in spite of the general rule) and the good noble-minded people are the "pure" group that deserves the most praise and exaltation, and the least profiling and abuse from police.

The "Pure group" of "Noble-minded" people in that context comes in every color humans come in, and I'm assuming is found in every country, but they are the exception to a general rule.

Now, it's proven that African Americans have a higher crime rate than other ethnicities on average (according to the statistics I've read, sometimes by far) and have every indication of being the most prone to certain types of crimes. I've taken into account there are many reasons for this.

One of those reasons , is of course poverty. Impoverished poor white people are going to be more prone to crime and homicide as well.

But I've seen plenty of impoverished white people as I grew up in jails, institutions, group homes, and have been to ghettos that had a decent white population, as well as lived in Montana, where almost everyone is white, and still I don't see the same mentality on average among the poor plus disenfranchised, and way different behaviors displayed as well.

So, I don't know. Africa doesn't have any countries I would consider very successful. Libya was, under Gaddafi, but there has been so much violence and terrorism in Africa during my lifetime, that if that was going on in Europe, it would be called "World War 3" in the Newspapers.

So, I hate to be so politically incorrect , but living as a minority myself in a black neighborhood, police do have actual instincts that are going to kick in and tell them to profile a certain look more than others.

I'm not saying it's okay, but it's an instinct, a survival instinct at that.

However, in George Floyd's case, he was already handcuffed. So, that is no survival instinct kicking in. That's pure cruelty and brutality.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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With all due respect to the African Community though, do you think police have more reason to profile them (on average)? I mean, I live in a black neighborhood and I've lived in non black neighborhoods. The crime rate and behavior is way different.

That doesn't make one ethnicity is better. There is a remnant of good people in every ethnicity (which the human race is on average disgusting in my opinion, so there is no ethnicity that is good, but there are good people in each in spite of the general rule) and the good noble-minded people are the "pure" group that deserves the most praise and exaltation, and the least profiling and abuse from police.

The "Pure group" of "Noble-minded" people in that context comes in every color humans come in, and I'm assuming is found in every country, but they are the exception to a general rule.

Now, it's proven that African Americans have a higher crime rate than other ethnicities on average (according to the statistics I've read, sometimes by far) and have every indication of being the most prone to certain types of crimes. I've taken into account there are many reasons for this.

One of those reasons , is of course poverty. Impoverished poor white people are going to be more prone to crime and homicide as well.

But I've seen plenty of impoverished white people as I grew up in jails, institutions, group homes, and have been to ghettos that had a decent white population, as well as lived in Montana, where almost everyone is white, and still I don't see the same mentality on average among the poor plus disenfranchised, and way different behaviors displayed as well.

So, I don't know. Africa doesn't have any countries I would consider very successful. Libya was, under Gaddafi, but there has been so much violence and terrorism in Africa during my lifetime, that if that was going on in Europe, it would be called "World War 3" in the Newspapers.

So, I hate to be so politically incorrect , but living as a minority myself in a black neighborhood, police do have actual instincts that are going to kick in and tell them to profile a certain look more than others.

I'm not saying it's okay, but it's an instinct, a survival instinct at that.

However, in George Floyd's case, he was already handcuffed. So, that is no survival instinct kicking in. That's pure cruelty and brutality.
Well I would say it’s complicated. If you overpolice a neighbourhood rife with poverty with few opportunities other than crime then I would say the crime rate would increase by default
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Thing is, George Floyd sparked protests and memorials worldwide.

I'm questioning what exactly has caused this to blow up like it has when police do worse things every day.

I'm not saying we should minimize it.

But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected.

That does make me wonder.

Also, more black babies are killed in New York than there are born ( through abortion), which I would think a group that says "Black lives Matter" would comment on, since they believe those lives must matter as well (I would think).

Founder of planned parenthood was openly racist and the organization targets black people. Where's even a comment from black lives matter on that. Just saying.

And I'm all for women having safe , legal abortion , legal for them rather than the trauma and grief of an unwanted child. I'm just pointing out an inconsistency and double standard and hypocrisy I'm seeing.

"But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected."

Wait a second... did you just suggest that Mr. Floyd was 'kinda asking for it anyway'?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Thing is, George Floyd sparked protests and memorials worldwide.

I'm questioning what exactly has caused this to blow up like it has when police do worse things every day.
THAT'S what caused the b blowup. That police do that and worse things every day.
I'm not saying we should minimize it.

But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected.
It's not about YOU. Why are you making it about you?

That does make me wonder.
Also, more black babies are killed in New York than there are born ( through abortion), which I would think a group that says "Black lives Matter" would comment on, since they believe those lives must matter as well (I would think).
Abortion is a completely different and unrelated issue.
 

Spiderman

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"But I bet if the same crime had been committed against me in broad daylight and I was dead (which I'm kinda asking for it anyway though), there wouldn't be riots throughout the Twin Cities over me or worldwide protests, even if my killer was a different ethnicity and "hate crime" was suspected."

Wait a second... did you just suggest that Mr. Floyd was 'kinda asking for it anyway'?

Absolutely not.

I'm saying that when Minneapolis police yanked my arm out of my socket I was trying to get shot. I charged at them with my hand in my pocket saying I had a gun and punched a hole through a squad car window after jumping on top of it. I'm not implying George had that kind of attitude, and neither do I when I'm sober.

I was just saying, I'm disqualified from the scenerio of "if it had been me would there have been protests" because I have a death wish, preferably to be murdered by the hands of a human being or the claws and mouth of a wild beast or venemous bite.
 

Michael345

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And lets see if anyone represents the victims of Communism like that.


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Between the months of January and August of 1945, Germany saw the largest incident of mass rape known in history, where an estimated two million German women were raped by the Soviet Red Army soldiers, as written by Walter Zapotoczny Jr. in his book, ‘Beyond Duty: The Reason Some Soldiers Commit Atrocities’.

Hospital reports also stated that abortion operations were being carried out daily across all German hospitals.

Natalya Gesse, who was a Soviet war correspondent at the time, said that the Soviets didn’t care about the ages of their victims. “The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to eighty. It was an army of rapists,” she said.

This caused the deaths of no less than 200,000 girls and women due to the spread of diseases, especially that many eyewitnesses recounted victims being raped as much as 70 times in that period.

In his book, Zapototsny said that even female Russian soldiers do not approve of rape, some find it amusing. I wrote an article about how German women survived the most massive rape in Soviet history. With the help of https://edubirdie.com/rate-my-paper I checked it for errors and also received an in-depth paper analysis of the article.

Granted Germany was terrible, but the Soviet Union had a far higher kill-count with worse tortures, and they didn't get a slap on the wrist.

Chinese government executed over 60 million people in the 20th century and committed genocide against sparrows. The Chinese burn incense to Mao, the biggest mass murderer in history, to this day. His images are everywhere in China and the government teaches that he was a great guy.

Cambodia killed up to half their people.

Yet history books didn't cover any of that when I was growing up.
You are right, I am now in a very strange state - we were not told about this in history lessons. And I myself, being carried away by reading about the Second World War, did not come across such information. You surprised me a lot. This makes you look at many things from a completely different angle.
 
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